From: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Michael Rubin <mrubin@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch] Converting writeback linked lists to a tree based data structure
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:25:53 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <400457571.32162@ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
Message-ID: <E1JEzqb-0003YX-Rg@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080115194415.64ba95f2.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 07:44:15PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:01:08 +0800 Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:53:42AM -0800, Michael Rubin wrote:
> > > On Jan 15, 2008 12:46 AM, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> > > > Just a quick question, how does this interact/depend-uppon etc.. with
> > > > Fengguangs patches I still have in my mailbox? (Those from Dec 28th)
> > >
> > > They don't. They apply to a 2.6.24rc7 tree. This is a candidte for 2.6.25.
> > >
> > > This work was done before Fengguang's patches. I am trying to test
> > > Fengguang's for comparison but am having problems with getting mm1 to
> > > boot on my systems.
> >
> > Yeah, they are independent ones. The initial motivation is to fix the
> > bug "sluggish writeback on small+large files". Michael introduced
> > a new rbtree, and me introduced a new list(s_more_io_wait).
> >
> > Basically I think rbtree is an overkill to do time based ordering.
> > Sorry, Michael. But s_dirty would be enough for that. Plus, s_more_io
> > provides fair queuing between small/large files, and s_more_io_wait
> > provides waiting mechanism for blocked inodes.
> >
> > The time ordered rbtree may delay io for a blocked inode simply by
> > modifying its dirtied_when and reinsert it. But it would no longer be
> > that easy if it is to be ordered by location.
>
> What does the term "ordered by location" mean? Attemting to sort inodes by
> physical disk address? By using their i_ino as a key?
>
> That sounds optimistic.
Yes, exactly. Think about email servers with lots of dirty files.
> > If we are going to do location based ordering in the future, the lists
> > will continue to be useful. It would simply be a matter of switching
> > from the s_dirty(order by time) to some rbtree or radix tree(order by
> > location).
> >
> > We can even provide both ordering at the same time to different
> > fs/inodes which is configurable by the user. Because the s_dirty
> > and/or rbtree would provide _only_ ordering(not faireness or waiting)
> > and hence is interchangeable.
> >
> > This patchset could be a good reference. It does location based
> > ordering with radix tree:
> >
> > [RFC][PATCH] clustered writeback <http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/8/27/45>
>
> list_heads are just the wrong data structure for this function. Especially
> list_heads which are protected by a non-sleeping lock.
list_heads are OK if we use them for one and only function. We have
been trying to jam too much into s_dirty in the past. Grabbing a
refcount could be better than locking - anyway if we split the
functions today, it would be easy to replace the list_heads one by
one in the future.
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Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-15 8:09 [patch] Converting writeback linked lists to a tree based data structure Michael Rubin, Michael Rubin
2008-01-15 8:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-15 17:53 ` Michael Rubin
[not found] ` <E1JEyWa-0001Ys-F9@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-16 3:01 ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-16 3:44 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <E1JEzqb-0003YX-Rg@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-16 4:25 ` Fengguang Wu [this message]
2008-01-16 4:42 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <E1JF0It-0000yD-Mi@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-16 4:55 ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-16 5:51 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <E1JF4Ey-0000x4-5p@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-16 9:07 ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-18 7:36 ` Mike Waychison
2008-01-16 22:35 ` David Chinner
[not found] ` <E1JFLEW-0002oE-G1@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-17 3:16 ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-17 5:21 ` David Chinner
2008-01-16 7:55 ` David Chinner
2008-01-16 8:13 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <E1JF7yp-0006l8-5P@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-16 13:06 ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-16 18:55 ` Michael Rubin
[not found] ` <E1JFLTR-0002pn-4Y@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-17 3:31 ` Fengguang Wu
[not found] ` <E1JFRFm-00011Q-0q@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-17 9:41 ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-17 21:07 ` Michael Rubin
[not found] ` <E1JFjGz-0001eU-3O@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-18 4:56 ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-18 5:41 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <E1JFkHy-0001jR-VD@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-18 6:01 ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-18 7:48 ` Mike Waychison
2008-01-18 6:43 ` Michael Rubin
[not found] ` <E1JFnZz-00015z-Vq@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-18 9:32 ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-18 5:01 ` David Chinner
2008-01-18 5:38 ` Michael Rubin
2008-01-18 8:54 ` David Chinner
2008-01-18 9:26 ` Michael Rubin
[not found] ` <E1JFjyv-0001hU-FA@localhost.localdomain>
2008-01-18 5:41 ` Fengguang Wu
2008-01-19 2:50 ` David Chinner
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2007-12-13 0:32 Michael Rubin, Michael Rubin
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