From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: "Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)" <kernel@pankajraghav.com>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
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linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
mcgrof@kernel.org, gost.dev@samsung.com, hch@lst.de,
Pankaj Raghav <p.raghav@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] add static PMD zero page support
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2025 14:06:22 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F8FE3338-F0E9-4C1B-96A3-393624A6E904@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250707142319.319642-1-kernel@pankajraghav.com>
On 7 Jul 2025, at 10:23, Pankaj Raghav (Samsung) wrote:
> From: Pankaj Raghav <p.raghav@samsung.com>
>
> There are many places in the kernel where we need to zeroout larger
> chunks but the maximum segment we can zeroout at a time by ZERO_PAGE
> is limited by PAGE_SIZE.
>
> This concern was raised during the review of adding Large Block Size support
> to XFS[1][2].
>
> This is especially annoying in block devices and filesystems where we
> attach multiple ZERO_PAGEs to the bio in different bvecs. With multipage
> bvec support in block layer, it is much more efficient to send out
> larger zero pages as a part of a single bvec.
>
> Some examples of places in the kernel where this could be useful:
> - blkdev_issue_zero_pages()
> - iomap_dio_zero()
> - vmalloc.c:zero_iter()
> - rxperf_process_call()
> - fscrypt_zeroout_range_inline_crypt()
> - bch2_checksum_update()
> ...
>
> We already have huge_zero_folio that is allocated on demand, and it will be
> deallocated by the shrinker if there are no users of it left.
>
> At moment, huge_zero_folio infrastructure refcount is tied to the process
> lifetime that created it. This might not work for bio layer as the completions
> can be async and the process that created the huge_zero_folio might no
> longer be alive.
>
> Add a config option STATIC_PMD_ZERO_PAGE that will always allocate
> the huge_zero_folio via memblock, and it will never be freed.
Do the above users want a PMD sized zero page or a 2MB zero page?
Because on systems with non 4KB base page size, e.g., ARM64 with 64KB
base page, PMD size is different. ARM64 with 64KB base page has
512MB PMD sized pages. Having STATIC_PMD_ZERO_PAGE means losing
half GB memory. I am not sure if it is acceptable.
Best Regards,
Yan, Zi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-07 18:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-07 14:23 [PATCH v2 0/5] add static PMD zero page support Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-07-07 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: move huge_zero_page declaration from huge_mm.h to mm.h Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-07-15 14:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-16 7:47 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-07-16 15:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-07 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] huge_memory: add huge_zero_page_shrinker_(init|exit) function Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-07-15 14:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-16 8:01 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-07-15 14:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-16 8:08 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-07-07 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: add static PMD zero page Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-07-15 14:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-15 14:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 10:34 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-07-17 11:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 12:07 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-07-15 15:26 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-07 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: add largest_zero_folio() routine Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-07-15 14:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-15 14:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-15 16:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-07 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] block: use largest_zero_folio in __blkdev_issue_zero_pages() Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-07-15 16:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-16 13:24 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-07-07 18:06 ` Zi Yan [this message]
2025-07-09 8:03 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] add static PMD zero page support Pankaj Raghav
2025-07-09 15:55 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-15 14:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-15 14:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-15 14:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-15 14:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-15 15:25 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-07-15 15:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-07 22:38 ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-09 9:59 ` Pankaj Raghav
2025-07-15 14:15 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-15 13:53 ` Pankaj Raghav
2025-07-15 14:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-15 15:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-17 10:43 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
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