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From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@arm.com>,
	Ryan.Roberts@arm.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Nick Terrell <terrelln@fb.com>, David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	"Vishal Moola (Oracle)" <vishal.moola@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, david.hildenbrand@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] mm/page_alloc: Optimize free_contig_range()
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 08:46:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FC8C47E8-58A7-4F5F-ACDF-CF24DB662D82@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8cf1b799-c02c-466d-9212-0e12a99bfd8b@kernel.org>

On 20 Mar 2026, at 4:20, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:

> On 3/19/26 23:07, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>>> the allocation of non-compound order>0, like you suggested in 3, we basically
>>>
>>> I suggested we'd take it away in the sense of not producing order>0 where
>>> head is refcounted, tails are not, and it's not a compound page. I'd rather
>>> have an API that applies split_page() before and returns it as order-0
>>> refcounted pages, but not the intermediate order>0 non-compound anymore.
>>
>> Are you talking about external API or internal API?
>
> In this case of alloc+split, external, and that would make sense to me.
>
> In case of freeing, the current free_pages(order>0) is also external and I
> would prefer not to augment it for this free_contig_range() usecase.
>
>> Regarding external interface: I think the crucial part is that an
>> external interface (free_contig_range) should always get a range of
>> individual order-0 pages: neither compound nor non-compound order > 0.
>
> Ack.
>
>> The individual order-0 pages can either be frozen or refcounted
>> (depending on the interface).
>
> Ack.
>
>> Regarding internal interface: To me that implies that FPI_PREPARED will
>> never ever have to do any kind of "subpage" (page) free_pages_prepare()
>> checks. It must already have been performed on all order-0 pages.
>>
>> So the TODO should indeed be dropped.
>
> Agreed. But maybe I misunderstood Zi, so that's why I tried to add so much
> detail about what I mean by what.

Ack on dropping the TODO.

I was discussing about whether we can have a better interface for freeing these
contiguous pages instead of FPI_PREPARED. Since FPI_PREPARED adds another
form of free pages, where free_pages_prepare() are called on all incoming
pages already. It might be a separate topic. I will think about it more
and come back later. Sorry for the confusion.

>
>> I'm not sure I understood whether you think using the
>> __free_frozen_pages() with order > 0 is okay, or whether we need a
>> different (internal) interface.
>
> I think this is fine. But I agree with you above that this assumes
> FPI_PREPARED and will not have to deal with subpages.


Best Regards,
Yan, Zi


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-20 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-16 11:31 [PATCH v2 0/3] mm: Free contiguous order-0 pages efficiently Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-03-16 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] mm/page_alloc: Optimize free_contig_range() Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-03-16 15:21   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-03-16 16:02     ` Zi Yan
2026-03-16 16:19       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-17 15:17         ` Zi Yan
2026-03-17 18:48           ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-19 22:07             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-20  8:20               ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-20 12:46                 ` Zi Yan [this message]
2026-03-16 16:11     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-03-16 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] vmalloc: Optimize vfree Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-03-16 15:49   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-03-17  9:36     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-03-20  8:39     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-20 14:33       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-23 11:28         ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-03-16 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mm/page_alloc: Optimize __free_contig_frozen_range() Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-03-16 16:22   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-03-20 14:26   ` Zi Yan

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