From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, npiggin@suse.de,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Lockless page cache test results
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:12:28 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0604270804420.3701@g5.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44505B59.1060308@yahoo.com.au>
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Nick Piggin wrote:
> >
> > Of course, with small files, the actual filename lookup is likely to be the
> > real limiter.
>
> Although that's lockless so it scales. find_get_page will overtake it
> at some point.
filename lookup is only lockless for independent files. You end up getting
the "dentry->d_lock" for a successful lookup in the lookup path, so if you
have multiple threads looking up the same files (or - MUCH more commonly -
directories), you're not going to be lockless.
I don't know how we could improve it. I've several times thought that we
_should_ be able to do the directory lookups under the rcu read lock and
never touch their d_count or d_lock at all, but the locking against
directory renaming depends very intimately on d_lock.
It is _possible_ that we should be able to handle it purely with just
memory ordering rather than depending on d_lock. That would be wonderful.
Of course, we do actually scale pretty damn well already. I'm just saying
that it's not perfect.
See __d_lookup() for details.
Linus
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-04-27 15:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-04-26 13:53 Lockless page cache test results Jens Axboe
2006-04-26 14:43 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-26 19:46 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-27 5:39 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-04-27 6:07 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-27 6:15 ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-27 7:51 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-04-26 16:55 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-26 17:42 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-26 18:10 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-26 18:23 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-26 18:46 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-26 19:21 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-27 5:58 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-26 18:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-26 18:47 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-26 18:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-26 18:49 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-26 20:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-28 14:01 ` David Chinner
2006-04-28 14:10 ` David Chinner
2006-04-30 9:49 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-30 11:20 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-30 11:39 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-30 11:44 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-26 18:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-04-26 19:02 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-26 19:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-26 19:15 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-26 20:12 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-27 7:45 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-27 7:47 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-27 7:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-27 8:02 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-27 9:00 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-27 13:36 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-27 8:36 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20060428112835.GA8072@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-04-28 11:28 ` Wu Fengguang
2006-04-27 5:49 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-27 15:12 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2006-04-28 4:54 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-28 5:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-27 9:35 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-27 5:22 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-26 18:57 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-27 2:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-04-27 8:03 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-27 11:16 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-27 11:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-04-27 11:45 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-28 9:10 ` Pavel Machek
2006-04-28 9:21 ` Jens Axboe
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