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From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
Cc: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
	Izik Eidus <izike@qumranet.com>,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	steiner@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, daniel.blueman@quadrics.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v5
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:10:52 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802051504450.16261@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080205222657.GG7441@v2.random>

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:

> > You can avoid the page-pin and the pt lock completely by zapping the 
> > mappings at _start and then holding off new references until _end.
> 
> "holding off new references until _end" = per-range mutex less scalar
> and more expensive than the PT lock that has to be taken anyway.

You can of course setup a 2M granularity lock to get the same granularity 
as the pte lock. That would even work for the cases where you have to page 
pin now.

> > Maybe that is true for KVM but certainly not true for the GRU. The GRU is 
> > designed to manage several petabytes of memory that may be mapped by a 
> > series of Linux instances. If a process only maps a small chunk of 4 
> > Gigabytes then we already have to deal with 1 mio callbacks.
> 
> KVM is also going to map a lot of stuff, but mapping involves mmap,
> munmap/mremap/mprotect not. The size of mmap is irrelevant in both
> approaches. optimizing do_exit by making the tlb-miss runtime slower
> doesn't sound great to me and that's your patch does if you force GRU
> to use it.

The size of the mmap is relevant if you have to perform callbacks on 
every mapped page that involved take mmu specific locks. That seems to be 
the case with this approach.

Optimizing do_exit by taking a single lock to zap all external references 
instead of 1 mio callbacks somehow leads to slowdown?

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-05 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-31  4:57 [patch 0/3] [RFC] MMU Notifiers V4 Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57 ` [patch 1/3] mmu_notifier: Core code Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:56   ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  2:24     ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:37       ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  2:39         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:31   ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:39     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:47       ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  3:01         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  3:01       ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  3:03         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  3:52   ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  3:58     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  4:15       ` Robin Holt
2008-02-03  1:33       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-04 19:13         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57 ` [patch 2/3] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 12:31   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 20:07     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:01     ` mmu_notifier: close hole in fork Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:16       ` mmu_notifier: reduce size of mm_struct if !CONFIG_MMU_NOTIFIER Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:21       ` mmu_notifier: Move mmu_notifier_release up to get rid of the invalidat_all() callback Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  0:13         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  1:52           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:57           ` mmu_notifier: invalidate_range for move_page_tables Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:38             ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:41               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  0:01       ` mmu_notifier: close hole in fork Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  1:48         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  4:24   ` [patch 2/3] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Robin Holt
2008-02-01  4:43     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01 10:32       ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01 10:37         ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01 19:13         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57 ` [patch 3/3] mmu_notifier: invalidate_page callbacks Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 17:18 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v5 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 20:18   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 23:09     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 23:41       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  1:44         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01 12:09           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01 19:23             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-03  2:17               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-03  3:14                 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-03  3:33                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-04 19:09                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05  5:25                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05  6:11                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 18:08                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 18:17                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 20:55                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 22:06                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 22:12                               ` Robin Holt
2008-02-05 22:26                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 23:10                                 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2008-02-05 23:47                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-06  0:04                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 23:28     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  1:37       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:23         ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:26           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01 12:00         ` Andrea Arcangeli

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