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From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch 4/5] slub: Use __GFP_MOVABLE for slabs of HPAGE_SIZE
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:14:27 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802141209470.1041@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080214200849.GB30841@csn.ul.ie>

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Mel Gorman wrote:

> > Doesnt it mean that the allocations can occur in MAX_ORDER blocks 
> > marked MOVABLE?
> 
> Blocks aren't MAX_ORDER in size, they are pageblock_order in size and that
> value can be thought of as HUGETLB_PAGE_ORDER. No matter what you mark them
> as, it is still one pageblock. If you leave them as RECLAIMABLE or UNMOVABLE,
> a MOVABLE block may still get reclaimed and given to slab instead without
> this patch. Marking them movable when no partition exists gains nothing at all.

Ok so order 9 allocs of slub could occur in pageblock_order blocks like 
what happens for huge pages today. AFAICT this makes the handling of 
slab pages consistent with huge pages?

> > echo 2 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_cache will usually allow a significant shrinkage
> > of the slab caches. In many ways it is the same.
> > 
> 
> Except it doesn't work for all slabs. As part of the highorder allocation
> stress tests I run, a final part is allocating pages when no other process is
> running and /proc/sys/vm/drop_cache has been used. There are still remaining
> pages left in odd places.

Nor does it work for huge pages which cannot be moved but they are marked 
__GFP_MOVABLE anyways.

> > This is a feature enabled by a special command line boot option. So its 
> > something that the admin did *intentionally*.
> 
> Not quite. What he asked for is that slub_min_order=HUGE_PAGESIZE, not
> slub_use_zone_movable. In a situation where they wanted to have a hugepage
> pool that reliably resized and slub_min_order == HUGE_PAGESIZE, he would
> find that they collide for no obvious reason.

Hmm.... So they would use the size of the movable area to size the hugetlb 
area? 

> > A system with huge amounts of memory has a large amount of huge 
> > pages. It is typically at this point to have 4G per cpu in a system and we 
> > may go higher. 4G means up to 2048 huge pages per cpu! Huge page 
> > allocation will be quite common and its good to reduce page allocator 
> > overhead.
> Marking them movable makes no difference to that assertion.

Hmmmm... Okay if pages are managed in pageblock_size chunks that are of 
HUGE_PAGE_SIZE then this patch makes no difference whatsoever.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-14 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080214040245.915842795@sgi.com>
     [not found] ` <20080214040313.318658830@sgi.com>
2008-02-14  7:23   ` [patch 1/5] slub: Determine gfpflags once and not every time a slab is allocated Pekka Enberg
2008-02-14 13:55   ` Mel Gorman
     [not found] ` <20080214040314.388752493@sgi.com>
2008-02-14  7:14   ` [patch 5/5] slub: Large allocs for other slab sizes that do not fit in order 0 Pekka Enberg
2008-02-14 19:06     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-14  8:55   ` Pekka Enberg
     [not found] ` <20080214040314.118141086@sgi.com>
2008-02-14  7:07   ` [patch 4/5] slub: Use __GFP_MOVABLE for slabs of HPAGE_SIZE Pekka Enberg
2008-02-14 19:04     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-14  8:57   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-14 19:07     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-14 14:14   ` Mel Gorman
2008-02-14 19:18     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-14 20:08       ` Mel Gorman
2008-02-14 20:14         ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2008-02-14 20:25           ` Mel Gorman
2008-02-14 20:32             ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found] ` <20080214040313.616551392@sgi.com>
2008-02-14  7:04   ` [patch 2/5] slub: Fallback to kmalloc_large for failing higher order allocs Pekka Enberg
2008-02-14  8:56   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-14 19:07     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-14 14:06   ` Mel Gorman
2008-02-14 19:10     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-14 19:23       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-14 19:32         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-14 19:47           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-14 19:57             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-14 20:02               ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-14 20:08                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-14 20:13                   ` Pekka Enberg

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