From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
Cc: Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>, Izik Eidus <izike@qumranet.com>,
kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
general@lists.openfabrics.org,
Steve Wise <swise@opengridcomputing.com>,
Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>,
Kanoj Sarcar <kanojsarcar@yahoo.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
daniel.blueman@quadrics.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v7
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:06:10 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802271503050.13186@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080227192610.GF28483@v2.random>
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> I hope this will can be considered final for .25 and be merged. Risk
> is zero, the only discussion here is to make an API that will last
> forever, functionality-wise all these patches provides zero risk and
> zero overhead when MMU_NOTIFIER=n. This last patch covers KVM and GRU
> and hopefully all other non-blocking users optimally, and the below
Ok so it somehow works slowly with GRU and you are happy with it. What
about the RDMA folks etc etc?
> API will hopefully last forever (but even if it lasts just for .25 and
> .26 is changed that's fine with us, it's a kernel _internal_ API
> anyway, there's absolutely nothing visible to userland).
Would it not be better to have a solution that fits all instead of hacking
something in now and then having to modify it later?
> What Christoph need to do when he's back from vacations to support
> sleepable mmu notifiers is to add a CONFIG_XPMEM config option that
> will switch the i_mmap_lock from a semaphore to a mutex (any other
> change to this patch will be minor compared to that) so XPMEM hardware
> will have kernels compiled that way. I don't see other sane ways to
> remove the "atomic" parameter from the API (apparently required by
> Andrew for merging something not restricted to the xpmem current usage
> with only anonymous memory) and I don't want to have such a
> locking-change intrusive dependency for all other non-blocking users
> that are fine without having to alter how the VM works (for example
> KVM and GRU). Very minor changes will be required to this patch to
> make it work after the VM locking will be altered (for example the
> CONFIG_XPMEM should also switch the mmu_register/unregister locking
> from RCU to mutex as well). XPMEM then will only compile if
> CONFIG_XPMEM=y and in turn the invalidate_range_* will support
> scheduling inside.
Hmmm.. There were earlier discussions of changing the anon vma lock to a
rw lock because of contention issues in large systems. Maybe we can just
generally switch the locks taken while walking rmaps to semaphores? That
would still require to put the invalidate outside of the pte lock.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-27 23:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-19 8:43 [patch] my mmu notifiers Nick Piggin
2008-02-19 8:44 ` [patch] my mmu notifier sample driver Nick Piggin
2008-02-19 11:59 ` [patch] my mmu notifiers Robin Holt
2008-02-19 13:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-19 14:27 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-19 23:04 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-20 0:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-20 2:46 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-27 22:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-19 22:59 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-20 0:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-27 22:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-19 23:11 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19 23:40 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-21 4:42 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-22 16:31 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-20 1:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-20 10:39 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v6 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-20 10:45 ` [PATCH] KVM swapping (+ seqlock fix) with " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-27 22:06 ` [PATCH] KVM swapping with mmu notifiers #v7 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-28 8:42 ` izik eidus
2008-02-20 11:33 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v6 Robin Holt
2008-02-20 12:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-20 12:24 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-20 12:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-20 13:15 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-21 5:02 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-20 14:41 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-20 15:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-20 21:03 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-21 4:54 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-21 14:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-21 16:10 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-27 19:26 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v7 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-27 20:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-27 23:06 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2008-02-27 23:43 ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-28 0:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 0:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-28 0:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 19:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 21:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-28 22:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 23:17 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-29 0:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-29 1:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 23:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 0:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-29 0:56 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-29 1:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 13:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-29 19:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-02 15:54 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v8 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-02 16:03 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v8 + xpmem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-02 16:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-03 3:29 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v8 Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 12:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-03 13:10 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 13:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-03 15:18 ` Jack Steiner
2008-03-03 16:59 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 18:06 ` Jack Steiner
2008-03-03 18:09 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-03 18:23 ` Jack Steiner
2008-03-03 18:45 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 19:15 ` Jack Steiner
2008-03-04 10:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-04 14:44 ` Jack Steiner
2008-03-03 19:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 19:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 21:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-05 0:37 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-05 18:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-06 2:59 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 3:33 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 19:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 3:34 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 19:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 3:39 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 21:37 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v9 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-03 22:05 ` [PATCH] KVM swapping with " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-04 0:44 ` izik eidus
2008-03-04 7:31 ` [RFC] Notifier for Externally Mapped Memory (EMM) Christoph Lameter
2008-03-04 7:34 ` [Early draft] Conversion of i_mmap_lock to semaphore Christoph Lameter
2008-03-04 13:30 ` [RFC] Notifier for Externally Mapped Memory (EMM) Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-04 19:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-04 22:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-04 22:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-04 22:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-04 23:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-04 23:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-04 23:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-05 5:09 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-05 9:47 ` Robin Holt
2008-03-05 9:53 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-05 10:02 ` [kvm-devel] " Dor Laor
2008-03-07 15:17 ` [PATCH] 2/4 move all invalidate_page outside of PT lock (#v9 was 1/4) Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-07 15:23 ` [PATCH] 3/4 combine RCU with seqlock to allow mmu notifier methods to sleep " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-07 15:52 ` [PATCH] 4/4 i_mmap_lock spinlock2rwsem " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-07 20:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-19 21:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07 16:52 ` [PATCH] 3/4 combine RCU with seqlock to allow mmu notifier methods to sleep " Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-07 17:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-07 18:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-07 18:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-07 19:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-07 20:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07 20:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07 20:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07 20:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07 19:54 ` [PATCH] 2/4 move all invalidate_page outside of PT lock " Christoph Lameter
2008-03-04 13:21 ` [PATCH] KVM swapping with mmu notifiers #v9 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-21 4:47 ` [patch] my mmu notifiers Nick Piggin
2008-02-20 2:49 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-27 22:56 ` Christoph Lameter
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