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From: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] SLQB slab allocator
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:01:32 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901141158090.26507@quilx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090114150900.GC25401@wotan.suse.de>

On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, Nick Piggin wrote:

> Right, but that regression isn't my only problem with SLUB. I think
> higher order allocations could be much more damaging for more a wider
> class of users. It is less common to see higher order allocation failure
> reports in places other than lkml, where people tend to have systems
> stay up longer and/or do a wider range of things with them.

The higher orders can fail and will then result in the allocator doing
order 0 allocs. It is not a failure condition. Higher orders are an
advantage because they localize variables of the same type and therefore
reduce TLB pressure.

> The idea of removing queues doesn't seem so good to me. Queues are good.
> You amortize or avoid all sorts of things with queues. We have them
> everywhere in the kernel ;)

Queues require maintenance which introduces variability because queue
cleaning has to be done periodically and the queues grow in number if NUMA
scenarios have to be handled effectively. This is a big problem for low
latency applications (like in HPC). Spending far too much time optimizing
queue cleaning in SLAB lead to the SLUB idea.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-14 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-14  9:04 [patch] SLQB slab allocator Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 10:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-14 11:47   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 13:44     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-14 14:22       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 14:45         ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-14 15:09           ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 15:22             ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 15:30               ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-14 15:59                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 18:40                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-15  6:19                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-15 20:47                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-16  3:43                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-16 21:25                           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-19  6:18                             ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-22  0:13                               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-22  9:27                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-22  9:30                                   ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-01-22  9:33                                     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-23 15:32                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-23 15:37                                         ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-23 15:42                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-23 15:32                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-23  4:09                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 15:41                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-23 15:53                                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-26 17:28                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-03  1:53                                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-03 17:33                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-03 18:42                                             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-03 18:47                                               ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-04  4:22                                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-04 20:09                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-05  3:18                                                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-04 20:10                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-05  3:14                                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-04  4:07                                             ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 18:01             ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2009-01-15  6:03               ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-15 20:05                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-16  3:19                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-16 21:07                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-19  5:47                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-22  0:19                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-23  4:17                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 15:52                             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-23 16:10                               ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 17:09                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-26 17:46                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-03  1:42                                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-26 17:34                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-03  1:48                                   ` Nick Piggin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-01-21 14:30 Nick Piggin
2009-01-21 14:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-21 15:17   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21 16:56   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21 17:40     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-23  3:31       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23  6:14       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 12:56         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-21 17:59 ` Joe Perches
2009-01-23  3:35   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23  4:00     ` Joe Perches
2009-01-21 18:10 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-22 10:01   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-22 12:47     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-23 14:23       ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-23 14:30         ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-02  3:38         ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-02  9:00           ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-02 15:00             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-03  1:34               ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-03  7:29             ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-03 12:18               ` Hugh Dickins
2009-02-04  2:21                 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-05 19:04                   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-02-06  0:47                     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-06  8:57                     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-06 12:33                       ` Hugh Dickins
2009-02-10  8:56                         ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-02 11:50           ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-23  3:55   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 13:57     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-22  8:45 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-01-23  3:57   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23  9:00   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 13:34     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-23 13:44       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23  9:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-23 10:13   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-23 11:25   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 11:57     ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-23 13:18       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 14:04         ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-23 14:27           ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 15:06             ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-23 15:15               ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 12:55   ` Nick Piggin

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