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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Michael Larabel <michael@michaellarabel.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,  kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-mm@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v1 5/5] mm: multi-gen LRU: use mmu_notifier_test_clear_young()
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 09:43:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y/elw7CTvVWt0Js6@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230217041230.2417228-6-yuzhao@google.com>

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023, Yu Zhao wrote:
> An existing selftest can quickly demonstrate the effectiveness of this
> patch. On a generic workstation equipped with 128 CPUs and 256GB DRAM:

Not my area of maintenance, but a non-existent changelog (for all intents and
purposes) for a change of this size and complexity is not acceptable.

>   $ sudo max_guest_memory_test -c 64 -m 250 -s 250
> 
>   MGLRU      run2
>   ---------------
>   Before    ~600s
>   After      ~50s
>   Off       ~250s
> 
>   kswapd (MGLRU before)
>     100.00%  balance_pgdat
>       100.00%  shrink_node
>         100.00%  shrink_one
>           99.97%  try_to_shrink_lruvec
>             99.06%  evict_folios
>               97.41%  shrink_folio_list
>                 31.33%  folio_referenced
>                   31.06%  rmap_walk_file
>                     30.89%  folio_referenced_one
>                       20.83%  __mmu_notifier_clear_flush_young
>                         20.54%  kvm_mmu_notifier_clear_flush_young
>   =>                      19.34%  _raw_write_lock
> 
>   kswapd (MGLRU after)
>     100.00%  balance_pgdat
>       100.00%  shrink_node
>         100.00%  shrink_one
>           99.97%  try_to_shrink_lruvec
>             99.51%  evict_folios
>               71.70%  shrink_folio_list
>                 7.08%  folio_referenced
>                   6.78%  rmap_walk_file
>                     6.72%  folio_referenced_one
>                       5.60%  lru_gen_look_around
>   =>                    1.53%  __mmu_notifier_test_clear_young

Do you happen to know how much of the improvement is due to batching, and how
much is due to using a walkless walk?

> @@ -5699,6 +5797,9 @@ static ssize_t show_enabled(struct kobject *kobj, struct kobj_attribute *attr, c
>  	if (arch_has_hw_nonleaf_pmd_young() && get_cap(LRU_GEN_NONLEAF_YOUNG))
>  		caps |= BIT(LRU_GEN_NONLEAF_YOUNG);
>  
> +	if (kvm_arch_has_test_clear_young() && get_cap(LRU_GEN_SPTE_WALK))
> +		caps |= BIT(LRU_GEN_SPTE_WALK);

As alluded to in patch 1, unless batching the walks even if KVM does _not_ support
a lockless walk is somehow _worse_ than using the existing mmu_notifier_clear_flush_young(),
I think batching the calls should be conditional only on LRU_GEN_SPTE_WALK.  Or
if we want to avoid batching when there are no mmu_notifier listeners, probe
mmu_notifiers.  But don't call into KVM directly.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-23 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-17  4:12 [PATCH mm-unstable v1 0/5] mm/kvm: lockless accessed bit harvest Yu Zhao
2023-02-17  4:12 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v1 1/5] mm/kvm: add mmu_notifier_test_clear_young() Yu Zhao
2023-02-23 17:13   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-23 17:40     ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-23 21:12       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-23 17:34   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-17  4:12 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v1 2/5] kvm/x86: add kvm_arch_test_clear_young() Yu Zhao
2023-02-17  4:19   ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-17 16:27   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-23  5:58     ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-23 17:09       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-23 17:27         ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-23 18:23           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-23 18:34             ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-23 18:47               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-23 19:02                 ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-23 19:21                   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-23 19:25                     ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-17  4:12 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v1 3/5] kvm/arm64: " Yu Zhao
2023-02-17  4:21   ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-17  9:00     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-23  3:58       ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-23  9:03         ` Marc Zyngier
2023-02-23  9:18           ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-17  9:09   ` Oliver Upton
2023-02-17 16:00     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-23  5:25       ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-23  4:43     ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-17  4:12 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v1 4/5] kvm/powerpc: " Yu Zhao
2023-02-17  4:24   ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-17  4:12 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v1 5/5] mm: multi-gen LRU: use mmu_notifier_test_clear_young() Yu Zhao
2023-02-23 17:43   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2023-02-23 18:08     ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-23 19:11       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-23 19:36         ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-23 19:58           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-23 20:09             ` Yu Zhao
2023-02-23 20:28               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-23 20:48                 ` Yu Zhao

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