From: Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Aneesh Kumar K V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"cgroups@vger.kernel.org" <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
"Chen, Tim C" <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
"Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/vmscan: respect cpuset policy during page demotion
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 20:20:01 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y1kl8VbPE0RYdyEB@feng-clx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y1j7tsj5M0Md/+Er@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 05:19:50PM +0800, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 26-10-22 16:00:13, Feng Tang wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 03:49:48PM +0800, Aneesh Kumar K V wrote:
> > > On 10/26/22 1:13 PM, Feng Tang wrote:
> > > > In page reclaim path, memory could be demoted from faster memory tier
> > > > to slower memory tier. Currently, there is no check about cpuset's
> > > > memory policy, that even if the target demotion node is not allowd
> > > > by cpuset, the demotion will still happen, which breaks the cpuset
> > > > semantics.
> > > >
> > > > So add cpuset policy check in the demotion path and skip demotion
> > > > if the demotion targets are not allowed by cpuset.
> > > >
> > >
> > > What about the vma policy or the task memory policy? Shouldn't we respect
> > > those memory policy restrictions while demoting the page?
> >
> > Good question! We have some basic patches to consider memory policy
> > in demotion path too, which are still under test, and will be posted
> > soon. And the basic idea is similar to this patch.
>
> For that you need to consult each vma and it's owning task(s) and that
> to me sounds like something to be done in folio_check_references.
> Relying on memcg to get a cpuset cgroup is really ugly and not really
> 100% correct. Memory controller might be disabled and then you do not
> have your association anymore.
You are right, for cpuset case, the solution depends on 'CONFIG_MEMCG=y',
and the bright side is most of distribution have it on.
> This all can get quite expensive so the primary question is, does the
> existing behavior generates any real issues or is this more of an
> correctness exercise? I mean it certainly is not great to demote to an
> incompatible numa node but are there any reasonable configurations when
> the demotion target node is explicitly excluded from memory
> policy/cpuset?
We haven't got customer report on this, but there are quite some customers
use cpuset to bind some specific memory nodes to a docker (You've helped
us solve a OOM issue in such cases), so I think it's practical to respect
the cpuset semantics as much as we can.
Your concern about the expensive cost makes sense! Some raw ideas are:
* if the shrink_folio_list is called by kswapd, the folios come from
the same per-memcg lruvec, so only one check is enough
* if not from kswapd, like called form madvise or DAMON code, we can
save a memcg cache, and if the next folio's memcg is same as the
cache, we reuse its result. And due to the locality, the real
check is rarely performed.
Thanks,
Feng
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-26 12:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-26 7:43 [PATCH] mm/vmscan: respect cpuset policy during page demotion Feng Tang
2022-10-26 7:49 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-26 8:00 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-26 9:19 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 10:42 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-26 11:02 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 12:08 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-26 12:21 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 12:35 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-27 9:02 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-27 10:16 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-27 13:05 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 12:20 ` Feng Tang [this message]
2022-10-26 15:59 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 17:57 ` Yang Shi
2022-10-27 7:11 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27 7:45 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27 7:51 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27 17:55 ` Yang Shi
2022-10-28 3:37 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-28 5:54 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-28 17:23 ` Yang Shi
2022-10-31 1:56 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-31 2:19 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-28 5:09 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-28 17:16 ` Yang Shi
2022-10-31 1:53 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27 6:47 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27 7:10 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-27 7:39 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27 8:01 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-27 9:31 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27 12:29 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-27 23:22 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-31 8:40 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-31 8:51 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-31 9:18 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-31 14:09 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-31 14:32 ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-07 8:05 ` Feng Tang
2022-11-07 8:17 ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-01 3:17 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-26 8:26 ` Yin, Fengwei
2022-10-26 8:37 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-26 14:36 ` Waiman Long
2022-10-27 5:57 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27 5:13 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27 5:49 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27 6:05 ` Huang, Ying
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