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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ngupta@vflare.org,
	sjenning@redhat.com, ddstreet@ieee.org, vitaly.wool@konsulko.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] zsmalloc: Consolidate zs_pool's migrate_lock and size_class's locks
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2022 12:58:30 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y2SN5tMH8CqYHsYK@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y2PbrOqRMLDsYev0@cmpxchg.org>

On (22/11/03 11:18), Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > I'm not in love with this, to be honest. One big pool lock instead
> > > of 255 per-class locks doesn't look attractive, as one big pool lock
> > > is going to be hammered quite a lot when zram is used, e.g. as a regular
> > > block device with a file system and is under heavy parallel writes/reads.
> 
> TBH the class always struck me as an odd scope to split the lock. Lock
> contention depends on how variable the compression rate is of the
> hottest incoming data, which is unpredictable from a user POV.
> 
> My understanding is that the primary usecase for zram is swapping, and
> the pool lock is the same granularity as the swap locking.

That's what we thought until a couple of merge windows ago we figured
(the hard way) that SUSE uses ZRAM as a normal block device with a real
file-system on it. And they use it often enough to immediately spot the
regression which we landed.

> Do you have a particular one in mind? (I'm thinking journaled ones are
> not of much interest, since their IO tends to be fairly serialized.)
> 
> btrfs?

Probably some parallel fio workloads? Seq, random reads/writes from
numerous workers.

I personally sometimes use ZRAM when I want to compile something and
I care only about the package, I don't need .o for recomplilation or
something, just the final package.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-04  3:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-26 20:06 [PATCH 0/5] Implement writeback for zsmalloc Nhat Pham
2022-10-26 20:06 ` [PATCH 1/5] zswap: fix writeback lock ordering " Nhat Pham
2022-10-26 20:06 ` [PATCH 2/5] zsmalloc: Consolidate zs_pool's migrate_lock and size_class's locks Nhat Pham
2022-10-28 14:46   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-02  3:28   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-02 21:36     ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-03 15:18       ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-03 15:53         ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-03 18:08           ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-03 18:10             ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-11-03 20:37               ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-03 20:46                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-11-03 21:15                   ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-03 23:19                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-11-03 21:43                   ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-03 23:31                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-11-03 20:22             ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-04  3:58         ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2022-11-07 21:31           ` Nhat Pham
2022-11-07 22:35             ` Minchan Kim
2022-10-26 20:06 ` [PATCH 3/5] zsmalloc: Add a LRU to zs_pool to keep track of zspages in LRU order Nhat Pham
2022-10-28 14:47   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-10-26 20:06 ` [PATCH 4/5] zsmalloc: Add ops fields to zs_pool to store evict handlers Nhat Pham
2022-10-28 15:18   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-02  4:10   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-07 21:36     ` Nhat Pham
2022-10-26 20:06 ` [PATCH 5/5] zsmalloc: Implement writeback mechanism for zsmalloc Nhat Pham
2022-10-27 13:53   ` kernel test robot
2022-10-27 18:27     ` [PATCH v2 " Nhat Pham
2022-10-28 15:19       ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-02  3:42       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-03 15:26         ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-02  3:44       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-02  4:13       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-11-03 16:45         ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-04  4:02           ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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