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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20221109155008.GC307514@darkstar.musicnaut.iki.fi> ARC-Seal: i=1; s=arc-20220608; d=hostedemail.com; t=1668015942; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=aRj9FS6G9bV5phenDqh8O0JFcEAJyYF6L049IYPRJmtqhaSfAHuTC+375b1fqAqC+r6TGx vqG729qiQ9LsGJ7GbWRiVBwL2Hmdj0ojyVvzrdsOX1sDQ8EAlrx6OMeDlCqMlAa1fm3kL6 FbYaZvf6aGAgNES46c8+MqzmuCcZdNM= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; imf21.hostedemail.com; dkim=pass header.d=kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=ARGpruzL; spf=pass (imf21.hostedemail.com: domain of rppt@kernel.org designates 145.40.68.75 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rppt@kernel.org; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=kernel.org ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hostedemail.com; s=arc-20220608; t=1668015942; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:dkim-signature; bh=1DtV4m9Sb5qzkkKdA2/5+vCFUTti1KLgMKN6UgI5yyk=; b=wLYZIYWKF7hwwmjOU+f37AOrMRIhFrI5qMlVJpShHrrZXJ0KnTItnit/jPVzOgIIrIASjI rw5o4lnU8WYb3xNeTJvJHIOtRSiXTJghCLxTXaDQ4T3l/WKtMyJ3MCO+992tqExg+aP+J4 6TpqgkgCttSwAlMGcOOiBEmP5GdqqVk= X-Stat-Signature: to6ujkxizokrjyup73cetf6hamh1sanm X-Rspam-User: Authentication-Results: imf21.hostedemail.com; dkim=pass header.d=kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=ARGpruzL; spf=pass (imf21.hostedemail.com: domain of rppt@kernel.org designates 145.40.68.75 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rppt@kernel.org; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=kernel.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: BE96F1C0005 X-Rspamd-Server: rspam09 X-HE-Tag: 1668015941-170231 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 05:50:08PM +0200, Aaro Koskinen wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 10:00:25AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 10:55 AM Vlastimil Babka wrote: > > >> I believe SLOB can be removed because: > > >> > > >> - AFAIK nobody really uses it? It strives for minimal memory footprint > > >> by putting all objects together, which has its CPU performance costs > > >> (locking, lack of percpu caching, searching for free space...). I'm not > > >> aware of any "tiny linux" deployment that opts for this. For example, > > >> OpenWRT seems to use SLUB and the devices these days have e.g. 128MB > > >> RAM, not up to 16 MB anymore. I've heard anecdotes that the performance > > >> SLOB impact is too much for those who tried. Googling for > > >> "CONFIG_SLOB=y" yielded nothing useful. > > > > > > I am all for removing SLOB. > > > > > > There are some devices with configs where SLOB is enabled by default. > > > Perhaps, the owners/maintainers of those devices/configs should be > > > included into this thread: > > [...] > > > > arch/arm/configs/omap1_defconfig:CONFIG_SLOB=y > > I have been using SLUB on my OMAP1 boards with 32 MB RAM, because of > better debugging features and the memory footprint difference doesn't > really matter for my use cases. Looking at history why SLOB was added > there, it seems it came from 6cfce27c14aa ("omap1: Add omap1_defconfig") > when separate boards configs were merged, and SX1 board happened to have > SLOB in there. This board is nowadays only used in QEMU anyway. Looks like the same happened with arch/arm/configs/pxa_defconfig. XCEP board had SLOB in its defconfig and when common pxa_defconfig was created it apparently used it. Looks like the board has 64M of RAM, so dropping CONFIG_SLOB=y from arch/arm/configs/pxa_defconfig and arch/arm/configs/xcep_defconfig seems very reasonable. -- Sincerely yours, Mike.