From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Topi Miettinen <toiwoton@gmail.com>
Cc: "Joey Gouly" <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Lennart Poettering" <lennart@poettering.net>,
"Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" <zbyszek@in.waw.pl>,
"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Szabolcs Nagy" <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
"Jeremy Linton" <jeremy.linton@arm.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-abi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, nd@arm.com,
shuah@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] mm: Implement memory-deny-write-execute as a prctl
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 15:35:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3Ox1QxAzdouCGUr@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45419a7d-04dd-2749-2534-6ba3bbd5d060@gmail.com>
On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 08:11:24AM +0200, Topi Miettinen wrote:
> On 10.11.2022 14.03, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 11:27:14AM +0000, Joey Gouly wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 11:51:00AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 04:04:56PM +0100, Joey Gouly wrote:
> > > > > diff --git a/mm/mmap.c b/mm/mmap.c
> > > > > index 099468aee4d8..42eaf6683216 100644
> > > > > --- a/mm/mmap.c
> > > > > +++ b/mm/mmap.c
> > > > > @@ -1409,6 +1409,9 @@ unsigned long do_mmap(struct file *file, unsigned long addr,
> > > > > vm_flags |= VM_NORESERVE;
> > > > > }
> > > > > + if (map_deny_write_exec(NULL, vm_flags))
> > > > > + return -EACCES;
> > > > > +
> > > >
> > > > This seems like the wrong place to do the check -- that the vma argument
> > > > is a hard-coded "NULL" is evidence that something is wrong. Shouldn't
> > > > it live in mmap_region()? What happens with MAP_FIXED, when there is
> > > > an underlying vma? i.e. an MAP_FIXED will, I think, bypass the intended
> > > > check. For example, we had "c" above:
> > > >
> > > > c) mmap(PROT_READ);
> > > > mprotect(PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC); // fails
> > > >
> > > > But this would allow another case:
> > > >
> > > > e) addr = mmap(..., PROT_READ, ...);
> > > > mmap(addr, ..., PROT_READ | PROT_EXEC, MAP_FIXED, ...); // passes
> > >
> > > I can move the check into mmap_region() but it won't fix the MAP_FIXED
> > > example that you showed here.
> > >
> > > mmap_region() calls do_mas_munmap(..) which will unmap overlapping regions.
> > > However the `vma` for the 'old' region is not kept around, and a new vma will
> > > be allocated later on "vma = vm_area_alloc(mm);", and the vm_flags are just set
> > > to what is passed into mmap_region(), so map_deny_write_exec(vma, vm_flags)
> > > will just be as good as passing NULL.
> > >
> > > It's possible to save the vm_flags from the region that is unmapped, but Catalin
> > > suggested it might be better if that is part of a later extension, what do you
> > > think?
> >
> > I thought initially we should keep the behaviour close to what systemd
> > achieves via SECCOMP while only relaxing an mprotect(PROT_EXEC) if the
> > vma is already executable (i.e. check actual permission change not just
> > the PROT_* flags).
> >
> > We could pass the old vm_flags for that region (and maybe drop the vma
> > pointer entirely, just check old and new vm_flags). But this feels like
> > tightening slightly systemd's MDWE approach. If user-space doesn't get
> > confused by this, I'm fine to go with it. Otherwise we can add a new
> > flag later for this behaviour
> >
> > I guess that's more of a question for Topi on whether point tightening
> > point (e) is feasible/desirable.
>
> I think we want 1:1 compatibility with seccomp() for the basic version, so
> MAP_FIXED shouldn't change the verdict. Later we can introduce more versions
> (perhaps even less strict, too) when it's requested by configuration, like
> MemoryDenyWriteExecute=[relaxed | strict].
Are you ok with allowing mprotect(PROT_EXEC|PROT_BTI) if the mapping is
already PROT_EXEC? Or you'd rather reject that as well?
--
Catalin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-15 15:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-26 15:04 [PATCH v1 0/2] mm: In-kernel support for memory-deny-write-execute (MDWE) Joey Gouly
2022-10-26 15:04 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] mm: Implement memory-deny-write-execute as a prctl Joey Gouly
2022-10-28 18:51 ` Kees Cook
2022-11-10 11:27 ` Joey Gouly
2022-11-10 12:03 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-11-12 6:11 ` Topi Miettinen
2022-11-15 15:35 ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2022-11-15 19:31 ` Topi Miettinen
2022-10-26 15:04 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] kselftest: vm: add tests for memory-deny-write-execute Joey Gouly
2022-10-28 17:03 ` Mark Brown
2022-11-08 17:33 ` Joey Gouly
2022-11-09 13:33 ` Mark Brown
2022-10-28 17:45 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-28 20:16 ` Kees Cook
2022-11-07 12:23 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-10-28 20:19 ` Kees Cook
2022-11-06 19:42 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] mm: In-kernel support for memory-deny-write-execute (MDWE) Topi Miettinen
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