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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] mm: Fix dropped memcg from mem cgroup soft limit tree
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 20:13:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YC68QRVsCONXscCl@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c3ffa2cb-cb2c-20b7-d722-c875934992e9@linux.intel.com>

On Thu 18-02-21 10:30:20, Tim Chen wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/18/21 12:24 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I have already acked this patch in the previous version along with Fixes
> > tag. It seems that my review feedback has been completely ignored also
> > for other patches in this series.
> 
> Michal,
> 
> My apology.  Our mail system screwed up and there are some mail missing
> from our mail system that I completely missed your mail.  
> Only saw them now after I looked into the lore.kernel.org.

I see. My apology for suspecting you from ignoring my review.
 
> Responding to your comment:
> 
> >Have you observed this happening in the real life? I do agree that the
> >threshold based updates of the tree is not ideal but the whole soft
> >reclaim code is far from optimal. So why do we care only now? The
> >feature is essentially dead and fine tuning it sounds like a step back
> >to me.
> 
> Yes, I did see the issue mentioned in patch 2 breaking soft limit
> reclaim for cgroup v1.  There are still some of our customers using
> cgroup v1 so we will like to fix this if possible.

It would be great to see more details.

> For patch 3 regarding the uncharge_batch, it
> is more of an observation that we should uncharge in batch of same node
> and not prompted by actual workload.
> Thinking more about this, the worst that could happen
> is we could have some entries in the soft limit tree that overestimate
> the memory used.  The worst that could happen is a soft page reclaim
> on that cgroup.  The overhead from extra memcg event update could
> be more than a soft page reclaim pass.  So let's drop patch 3
> for now.

I would still prefer to handle that in the soft limit reclaim path and
check each memcg for the soft limit reclaim excess before the reclaim.
 
> Let me know if you will like me to resend patch 1 with the fixes tag
> for commit 4e41695356fb ("memory controller: soft limit reclaim on contention")
> and if there are any changes I should make for patch 2.

I will ack and suggest Fixes.

> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Tim

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-18 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-17 20:41 [PATCH v2 0/3] Soft limit memory management bug fixes Tim Chen
2021-02-17 20:41 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] mm: Fix dropped memcg from mem cgroup soft limit tree Tim Chen
2021-02-18  8:24   ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-18 18:30     ` Tim Chen
2021-02-18 19:13       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-02-18 19:51         ` Tim Chen
2021-02-18 19:13   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-04 17:35     ` Tim Chen
2021-03-05  9:11       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-05 19:07         ` Tim Chen
2021-03-08  8:34           ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-17 20:41 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mm: Force update of mem cgroup soft limit tree on usage excess Tim Chen
2021-02-19  9:11   ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-19 18:59     ` Tim Chen
2021-02-20 16:23       ` Tim Chen
2021-02-22  8:40       ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-22 17:41         ` Tim Chen
2021-02-22 19:09           ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-22 19:23             ` Tim Chen
2021-02-22 19:48             ` Tim Chen
2021-02-24 11:53               ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-25 22:48                 ` Tim Chen
2021-02-26  8:52                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-27  0:56                     ` Tim Chen
2021-03-01  7:39                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-25 22:25           ` Tim Chen
2021-03-02  6:25   ` [mm] 4f09feb8bf: vm-scalability.throughput -4.3% regression kernel test robot
2021-02-17 20:41 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mm: Fix missing mem cgroup soft limit tree updates Tim Chen
2021-02-18  5:56   ` Johannes Weiner
2021-02-22 18:38     ` Tim Chen
2021-02-23 15:18       ` Johannes Weiner
2021-02-19  9:16   ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-19 19:28     ` Tim Chen
2021-02-22  8:41       ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-22 17:45         ` Tim Chen

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