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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: akpm@linuxfoundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Donald Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Mark idle page tracking as BROKEN
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 03:55:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YMloCP/zdravsdeS@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f6c50c9f-f26b-50f7-ac5f-93ffa83b95cb@redhat.com>

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 09:41:37AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 12.06.21 02:07, Matthew Wilcox (Oracle) wrote:
> 
> I might be missing something important, so some questions/comments
> 
> > In discussion with other MM developers around how idle page tracking
> > should be fixed for transparent huge pages, several expressed the opinion
> > that it should be removed as it is inefficient at accomplishing the
> > job that it is supposed to, and we have better mechanisms (eg uffd) for
> > accomplishing the same goals these days.
> 
> 1. A link to that discussion would be nice. I am missing some important
> details in this patch description.

It was on the phone in our bi-weekly THP call.  As I recall, those
present were Kirill, Yu Zhao, William Kucharski, Zi Yan, Vlastimil Babka.
Song Liu sent apologies, and I think Mike Kravetz had a conflict.

> 2. "should be fixed for transparent huge pages" -- has it always been like
> this or has the behavior changed at some point? Do the semantics, and how
> the feature is getting used, clearly identify this case that needs fixing as
> something that really has to be fixed? Or was it always like that and
> actually expected to work like that ("semtantics")?

I don't know.  I asked the others on the call and the answer I got was
essentially "Just delete it".

I'm kind of hoping the others speak up.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-16  2:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-12  0:07 [PATCH] mm: Mark idle page tracking as BROKEN Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-06-12  3:14 ` Yu Zhao
2021-06-14 11:08 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-06-14 13:49 ` SeongJae Park
2021-06-15  2:04   ` Andrew Morton
2021-06-15  6:40     ` SeongJae Park
2021-06-15  7:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-06-16  2:55   ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2021-06-16  6:22     ` Yu Zhao
2021-06-16  8:36       ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-06-16  8:43         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-06-16 19:23           ` Yu Zhao
2021-06-18 12:48             ` David Hildenbrand

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