From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, MENTIONS_GIT_HOSTING,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBE4C433EF for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2021 19:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kanga.kvack.org (kanga.kvack.org [205.233.56.17]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC8A6103E for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2021 19:24:52 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 mail.kernel.org 2CC8A6103E Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) id BB17B900002; Thu, 9 Sep 2021 15:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 40) id B61DE6B0072; Thu, 9 Sep 2021 15:24:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: int-list-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 63042) id A28B6900002; Thu, 9 Sep 2021 15:24:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: linux-mm@kvack.org Received: from forelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0107.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.107]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EAF6B006C for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2021 15:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpin27.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by forelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5F58249980 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2021 19:24:51 +0000 (UTC) X-FDA: 78569012382.27.EF5010D Received: from casper.infradead.org (casper.infradead.org [90.155.50.34]) by imf21.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5136D02CCDF for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2021 19:24:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=casper.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=9eYPN4SGvOoSGXLruTVuFwb68XsxZqpJHY8x5B67EyI=; b=lV2oJQVYRDMnUZkhcBngS14PQ3 1Mb+ZPJ+jQiKNeExH1+mA4Pg5AltvuEzB5ryIu5HVcvJI9WtPbnOmb1yn6qZco+emOlvxvimLw8+R CXL/HiZEBWO2Umo4Q79bd3CufNZTN85rOBfsQGaHQNtTN8VhMlL0VbDnXiwKvoztdPkcxmCRCo9WP OzikypG0d0XqWW9lT+qkOMwApJrqWujaF2YHpH0SEVCLVS4bJu3x8GhxEHLnCemfsjLf7Hq8uSaAy MU/fzVHOyf+ul3Zm2LjlNd7Lot1MfgWY1Y2Y8HLJFyi6CuGTdFKbU7QVFojjqG+15132SmjujYfbq Uj1sZl0A==; Received: from willy by casper.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1mOPe9-00AIXu-KF; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 19:23:49 +0000 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 20:23:41 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox To: John Hubbard Cc: Vlastimil Babka , Christoph Hellwig , Linus Torvalds , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , Johannes Weiner Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Memory folios for v5.15 Message-ID: References: <6b01d707-3ead-015b-eb36-7e3870248a22@suse.cz> <969bf3e2-89be-c25b-938e-38430dc836d3@nvidia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <969bf3e2-89be-c25b-938e-38430dc836d3@nvidia.com> X-Rspamd-Server: rspam04 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C5136D02CCDF X-Stat-Signature: zbezjbs9uqzdrshd6ydukh6a7zt61dk5 Authentication-Results: imf21.hostedemail.com; dkim=pass header.d=infradead.org header.s=casper.20170209 header.b=lV2oJQVY; spf=none (imf21.hostedemail.com: domain of willy@infradead.org has no SPF policy when checking 90.155.50.34) smtp.mailfrom=willy@infradead.org; dmarc=none X-HE-Tag: 1631215490-535509 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 12:17:00PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote: > On 9/9/21 06:56, Vlastimil Babka wrote: > > On 9/9/21 14:43, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > > So what is the result here? Not having folios (with that or another > > > name) is really going to set back making progress on sane support for > > > huge pages. Both in the pagecache but also for other places like direct > > > I/O. > > > > Yeah, the silence doesn't seem actionable. If naming is the issue, I believe > > Matthew had also a branch where it was renamed to pageset. If it's the > > unclear future evolution wrt supporting subpages of large pages, should we > > just do nothing until somebody turns that hypothetical future into code and > > we see whether it works or not? > > > > When I saw Matthew's proposal to rename folio --> pageset, my reaction was, > "OK, this is a huge win!". Because: > > * The new name addressed Linus' concerns about naming, which unblocks it > there, and > > * The new name seems to meet all of the criteria of the "folio" name, > including even grep-ability, after a couple of tiny page_set and pageset > cases are renamed--AND it also meets Linus' criteria for self-describing > names. > > So I didn't want to add noise to that thread, but now that there is still > some doubt about this, I'll pop up and suggest: do the huge > 's/folio/pageset/g', and of course the associated renaming of the conflicting > existing pageset and page_set cases, and then maybe it goes in. So I've done that. https://git.infradead.org/users/willy/pagecache.git/shortlog/refs/tags/pageset-5.15 I sent it to Linus almost two weeks ago: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/YSmtjVTqR9%2F4W1aq@casper.infradead.org/ Still nothing, so I presume he's still thinking about it.