From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F1EC433F5 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 18:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kanga.kvack.org (kanga.kvack.org [205.233.56.17]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA4F60F26 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 18:20:44 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 mail.kernel.org 1EA4F60F26 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=mit.edu Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) id A7A8F900002; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 40) id A2C4B6B0072; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:20:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: int-list-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 63042) id 9188A900002; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:20:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: linux-mm@kvack.org Received: from forelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0177.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.177]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820B56B0071 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpin34.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by forelay02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2965D3CC7C for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 18:20:43 +0000 (UTC) X-FDA: 78590623566.34.000DEAA Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by imf25.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D54B00018E for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 18:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cwcc.thunk.org (pool-72-74-133-215.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.133.215]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 18FIKUUX021510 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:20:31 -0400 Received: by cwcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id AD6E115C3427; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:20:30 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: James Bottomley Cc: Johannes Weiner , Kent Overstreet , Matthew Wilcox , Linus Torvalds , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , "Darrick J. Wong" , Christoph Hellwig , David Howells , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Folios as a potential Kernel/Maintainers Summit topic? Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: imf25.hostedemail.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (imf25.hostedemail.com: domain of tytso@mit.edu has no SPF policy when checking 18.9.28.11) smtp.mailfrom=tytso@mit.edu X-Rspamd-Server: rspam06 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C9D54B00018E X-Stat-Signature: 3u1ez6cwo8r7yepo97k9wbi6ybmax768 X-HE-Tag: 1631730042-562602 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 02:03:46PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote: > On Wed, 2021-09-15 at 13:42 -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > [...] > > Would this be helpful? (Or Linus could pull either the folio or > > pageset branch, and make this proposal obsolete, which would be > > great. :-) > > This is a technical rather than process issue isn't it? You don't have > enough technical people at the Maintainer summit to help meaningfully. > The ideal location, of course, was LSF/MM which is now not happening. > > However, we did offer the Plumbers BBB infrastructure to willy for a MM > gathering which could be expanded to include this. Well, that's why I was suggesting doing this as a LPC BOF, and using an LPC BOF session on Friday --- I'm very much aware we don't have the right tehcnical people at the Maintainer Summit. It's not clear we will have enough MM folks at the LPC, and I agree LSF/MM would be a better venue --- but as you say, it's not happening. We could also use the BBB infrastructure after the LPC as well, if we can't get everyone lined up and available on short notice. There are a lot of different possibilities; I'm for anything where all of the stakeholders agree will work, so we can make forward progress. Cheers, - Ted