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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>, Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Cc: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	raquini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm/vmscan.c: Prevent allocating shrinker_info on offlined nodes
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 11:55:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ya89lXTMZJJJfsfo@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a48c16d6-07df-ff44-67e6-f0942672ec28@redhat.com>

On Mon 06-12-21 20:01:34, David Hildenbrand wrote:
[...]
> Yes, that's what I refer to as fixing it in the caller -- similar to
> [1]. Michals point is to not require such node_online() checks at all,
> neither in the caller nor in the buddy.
> 
> I see 2 options short-term
> 
> 1) What we have in [1].
> 2) What I proposed in [2], fixing it for all such instances until we
> have something better.
> 
> Long term I tend to agree that what Michal proposes is better.
> 
> Short term I tend to like [2], because it avoids having to mess with all
> such instances to eventually get it right and the temporary overhead
> until we have the code reworked should be really negligible ...

I do dislike both but if I were to chose which to chose between the two
then 2 is surely more targeted. We really do not want to spread this
into bulk/pcp or whatever other allocator there is. The problem is that
somebody might still try to access NODE_DATA (e.g. via a helper that
hides that fact).

Anyway, I am not sure whether authors of the patch can reproduce the
problem and whether they can run a testing code on their machine. If yes
it would be great to try with http://lkml.kernel.org/r/Ya89aqij6nMwJrIZ@dhcp22.suse.cz
that I have just sent.

> [1] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20211108202325.20304-1-amakhalov@vmware.com
> [2]
> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/51c65635-1dae-6ba4-daf9-db9df0ec35d8@redhat.com
> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> 
> David / dhildenb

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-07 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-06  3:33 [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm: Dont allocate pages on a offline node Nico Pache
2021-12-06  3:33 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] include/linux/gfp.h: Do not allocate pages on a offlined node Nico Pache
2021-12-06  3:37   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-06  9:22   ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-07 21:24     ` Nico Pache
2021-12-06  3:33 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm/vmscan.c: Prevent allocating shrinker_info on offlined nodes Nico Pache
2021-12-06  9:22   ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-06  9:24     ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-07 21:34     ` Nico Pache
     [not found]     ` <d9d14beb-ee20-7ebb-e007-fbf58fb28535@redhat.com>
2021-12-06 10:54       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <840cb3d0-61fe-b6cb-9918-69146ba06cf7@redhat.com>
2021-12-06 11:22           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]             ` <51c65635-1dae-6ba4-daf9-db9df0ec35d8@redhat.com>
2021-12-06 13:06               ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                 ` <05157de4-e5df-11fc-fc46-8a9f79d0ddb4@redhat.com>
2021-12-06 14:06                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                     ` <d4f281e6-1999-a3de-b879-c6ca6a25ae67@redhat.com>
2021-12-06 14:21                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-06 14:30                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-12-06 14:53                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-06 18:26                             ` Yang Shi
2021-12-07 10:15                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-06 14:15                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]       ` <24b4455c-aff9-ca9f-e29f-350833e7a0d1@virtuozzo.com>
2021-12-06 13:24         ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-08 19:00           ` Nico Pache
2021-12-06 18:42         ` Yang Shi
     [not found]           ` <a48c16d6-07df-ff44-67e6-f0942672ec28@redhat.com>
2021-12-06 21:28             ` Yang Shi
2021-12-07 10:15               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-07 10:55             ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-12-07 21:45         ` Nico Pache
2021-12-07 21:40       ` Nico Pache
2021-12-06 18:45   ` Yang Shi

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