From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
John Dias <joaodias@google.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] mm: fix is_pinnable_page against on cma page
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 15:37:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ynw6mauQuNhrOAHy@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54b5d177-f2f4-cef2-3a68-cd3b0b276f86@nvidia.com>
On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 03:25:49PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 5/11/22 2:46 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > I read that, but there was never any real justification there for needing
> > > to prevent a re-read of mt, just a preference: "I'd like to keep use the local
> > > variable mt's value in folloing conditions checks instead of refetching
> > > the value from get_pageblock_migratetype."
> > >
> > > But I don't believe that there is any combination of values of mt that
> > > will cause a problem here.
> > >
> > > I also think that once we pull in experts, they will tell us that the
> > > compiler is not going to re-run a non-trivial function to re-fetch a
> > > value, but I'm not one of those experts, so that's still arguable. But
> > > imagine what the kernel code would look like if every time we call
> > > a large function, we have to consider if it actually gets called some
> > > arbitrary number of times, due to (anti-) optimizations by the compiler.
> > > This seems like something that is not really happening.
> >
> > Maybe, I might be paranoid since I have heard too subtle things
> > about how compiler could changes high level language code so wanted
> > be careful especially when we do lockless-stuff.
> >
> > Who cares when we change the large(?) function to small(?) function
> > later on? I'd like to hear from experts to decide it.
> >
>
> Yes. But one thing that is still unanswered, that I think you can
> answer, is: even if the compiler *did* re-read the mt variable, what
> problems could that cause? I claim "no problems", because there is
> no combination of 0, _CMA, _ISOLATE, _CMA|ISOLATE that will cause
> problems here.
What scenario I am concerning with __READ_ONCE so compiler
inlining get_pageblock_migratetype two times are
CPU 0 CPU 1
alloc_contig_range
is_pinnable_page start_isolate_page_range
set_pageblock_migratetype(MIGRATE_ISOLATE)
if (get_pageeblock_migratetype(page) == MIGRATE_CMA)
so it's false
undo:
set_pageblock_migratetype(MIGRATE_CMA)
if (get_pageeblock_migratetype(page) == MIGRATE_ISOLATE)
so it's false
In the end, CMA memory would be pinned by CPU 0 process
so CMA allocation keep failed until the process release the
refcount.
>
> Any if that's true, then we can leave the experts alone, because
> the answer is there without knowing what happens exactly to mt.
>
> thanks,
>
> --
> John Hubbard
> NVIDIA
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-11 22:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-10 21:17 [PATCH v4] mm: fix is_pinnable_page against on cma page Minchan Kim
2022-05-10 22:56 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-10 23:31 ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-10 23:58 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 0:09 ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11 4:32 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 21:46 ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11 22:25 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 22:37 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2022-05-11 22:49 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 23:08 ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11 23:13 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 23:15 ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11 23:28 ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11 23:33 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 23:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-11 23:57 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12 0:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-12 0:12 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12 0:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-12 0:26 ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12 0:34 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12 0:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-12 1:02 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12 1:03 ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12 1:08 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12 2:18 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12 3:44 ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12 4:47 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-17 14:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-17 18:12 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-17 19:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-17 20:12 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-17 20:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-23 16:33 ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-24 2:55 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-24 5:16 ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-24 6:22 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-24 14:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-24 15:43 ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-24 15:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-24 16:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-24 16:59 ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12 3:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-12 1:03 ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12 0:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
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