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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	John Dias <joaodias@google.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] mm: fix is_pinnable_page against on cma page
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 15:37:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ynw6mauQuNhrOAHy@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54b5d177-f2f4-cef2-3a68-cd3b0b276f86@nvidia.com>

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 03:25:49PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 5/11/22 2:46 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > I read that, but there was never any real justification there for needing
> > > to prevent a re-read of mt, just a preference: "I'd like to keep use the local
> > > variable mt's value in folloing conditions checks instead of refetching
> > > the value from get_pageblock_migratetype."
> > > 
> > > But I don't believe that there is any combination of values of mt that
> > > will cause a problem here.
> > > 
> > > I also think that once we pull in experts, they will tell us that the
> > > compiler is not going to re-run a non-trivial function to re-fetch a
> > > value, but I'm not one of those experts, so that's still arguable. But
> > > imagine what the kernel code would look like if every time we call
> > > a large function, we have to consider if it actually gets called some
> > > arbitrary number of times, due to (anti-) optimizations by the compiler.
> > > This seems like something that is not really happening.
> > 
> > Maybe, I might be paranoid since I have heard too subtle things
> > about how compiler could changes high level language code so wanted
> > be careful especially when we do lockless-stuff.
> > 
> > Who cares when we change the large(?) function to small(?) function
> > later on? I'd like to hear from experts to decide it.
> > 
> 
> Yes. But one thing that is still unanswered, that I think you can
> answer, is: even if the compiler *did* re-read the mt variable, what
> problems could that cause? I claim "no problems", because there is
> no combination of 0, _CMA, _ISOLATE, _CMA|ISOLATE that will cause
> problems here.

What scenario I am concerning with __READ_ONCE so compiler
inlining get_pageblock_migratetype two times are

        CPU 0                                                       CPU 1
                                                                alloc_contig_range
is_pinnable_page                                                start_isolate_page_range
                                                                  set_pageblock_migratetype(MIGRATE_ISOLATE)
   if (get_pageeblock_migratetype(page) == MIGRATE_CMA)    
       so it's false
                                                                undo:
                                                                  set_pageblock_migratetype(MIGRATE_CMA)
     
   if (get_pageeblock_migratetype(page) == MIGRATE_ISOLATE) 
       so it's false

In the end, CMA memory would be pinned by CPU 0 process
so CMA allocation keep failed until the process release the
refcount.

> 
> Any if that's true, then we can leave the experts alone, because
> the answer is there without knowing what happens exactly to mt.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> -- 
> John Hubbard
> NVIDIA
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-11 22:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-10 21:17 [PATCH v4] mm: fix is_pinnable_page against on cma page Minchan Kim
2022-05-10 22:56 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-10 23:31   ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-10 23:58     ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11  0:09       ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11  4:32         ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 21:46           ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11 22:25             ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 22:37               ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2022-05-11 22:49                 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 23:08                   ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11 23:13                     ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 23:15                       ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11 23:28                         ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-11 23:33                           ` John Hubbard
2022-05-11 23:45                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-11 23:57                         ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12  0:12                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-12  0:12                           ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12  0:22                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-12  0:26                               ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12  0:34                                 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12  0:49                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-12  1:02                                     ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12  1:03                                     ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12  1:08                                       ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12  2:18                                         ` John Hubbard
2022-05-12  3:44                                           ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12  4:47                                             ` John Hubbard
2022-05-17 14:00                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-17 18:12                                               ` John Hubbard
2022-05-17 19:28                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-17 20:12                                                   ` John Hubbard
2022-05-17 20:21                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-23 16:33                                                     ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-24  2:55                                                       ` John Hubbard
2022-05-24  5:16                                                         ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-24  6:22                                                           ` John Hubbard
2022-05-24 14:19                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-24 15:43                                                             ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-24 15:48                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-24 16:37                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-24 16:59                                                                   ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12  3:57                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-12  1:03                                   ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-12  0:35                                 ` Paul E. McKenney

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