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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Chen Wandun <chenwandun@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Add swappiness argument to memory.reclaim
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 10:51:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YoYFKdqayKRw2npp@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAPL-u8pZ_p+SQZnr=8UV37yiQpWRZny7g9p6YES0wa+g_kMJw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed 18-05-22 22:44:13, Wei Xu wrote:
> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 1:06 PM Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
[...]
> > But I don't think an anon/file bias will capture this coefficient?
> 
> It essentially provides the userspace proactive reclaimer an ability
> to define its own reclaim policy by adding an argument to specify
> which type of pages to reclaim via memory.reclaim.

I am not sure the swappiness is really a proper interface for that.
Historically this tunable has changed behavior several times and the
reclaim algorithm is free to ignore it completely in many cases. If you
want to build a userspace reclaim policy, then it really has to have a
predictable and stable behavior. That would mean that the semantic would
have to be much stronger than the global vm_swappiness.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-19  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-16 22:29 [RFC] Add swappiness argument to memory.reclaim Yosry Ahmed
2022-05-17  6:56 ` Michal Hocko
2022-05-17 18:06   ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-05-17 20:06     ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-19  5:44       ` Wei Xu
2022-05-19  8:51         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-05-19 15:29           ` Wei Xu
2022-05-19 18:24           ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-05-17 16:05 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-17 18:13   ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-05-17 19:49     ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-17 20:11       ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-05-17 20:45         ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-19  5:17           ` Wei Xu

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