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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] __follow_mount_rcu(): verify that mount_lock remains unchanged
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2022 04:48:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YsO0qu97PYZos2G1@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjmD7BgykuZYDOH-fmvfE3VMXm3qSoRjGShjKKdiiPDtA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 05:06:17PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> I wonder if the solution might not be to create a new structure like
> 
>         struct rcu_dentry {
>                 struct dentry *dentry;
>                 unsigned seq;
>         };
> 
> and in fact then we could make __d_lookup_rcu() return one of these
> things (we already rely on that "returning a two-word structure is
> efficient" elsewhere).
>
> That would then make that "this dentry goes with this sequence number"
> be a very clear thing, and I actually thjink that it would make
> __d_lookup_rcu() have a cleaner calling convention too, ie we'd go
> from
> 
>         dentry = __d_lookup_rcu(parent, &nd->last, &nd->next_seq);
> 
> rto
> 
>        dseq = __d_lookup_rcu(parent, &nd->last);
> 
> and it would even improve code generation because it now returns the
> dentry and the sequence number in registers, instead of returning one
> in a register and one in memory.
> 
> I did *not* look at how it would change some of the other places, but
> I do like the notion of "keep the dentry and the sequence number that
> goes with it together".
> 
> That "keep dentry as a local, keep the sequence number that goes with
> it as a field in the 'nd'" really does seem an odd thing. So I'm
> throwing the above out as a "maybe we could do this instead..".

I looked into that; turns out to be quite messy, unfortunately.  For one
thing, the distance between the places where we get the seq count and
the place where we consume it is large; worse, there's a bunch of paths
where we are in non-RCU mode converging to the same consumer and those
need a 0/1/-1/whatever paired with dentry.  Gets very clumsy...

There might be a clever way to deal with pairs cleanly, but I don't see it
at the moment.  I'll look into that some more, but...

BTW, how good gcc and clang are at figuring out that e.g.

static int foo(int n)
{
	if (likely(n >= 0))
		return 0;
	....
}

....
	if (foo(n))
		whatever();

should be treated as
	if (unlikely(foo(n)))
		whatever();

They certainly do it just fine if the damn thing is inlined (e.g.
all those unlikely(read_seqcount_retry(....)) can and should lose
unlikely), but do they manage that for non-inlined functions in
the same compilation unit?  Relatively recent gcc seems to...


  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-05  3:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-01 14:22 [PATCH v4 00/45] Add KernelMemorySanitizer infrastructure Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 01/45] x86: add missing include to sparsemem.h Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 02/45] stackdepot: reserve 5 extra bits in depot_stack_handle_t Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-12 14:17   ` Marco Elver
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 03/45] instrumented.h: allow instrumenting both sides of copy_from_user() Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-12 14:17   ` Marco Elver
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 04/45] x86: asm: instrument usercopy in get_user() and __put_user_size() Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-02  3:47   ` kernel test robot
2022-07-15 14:03     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-02 10:45   ` kernel test robot
2022-07-15 16:44     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-02 13:09   ` kernel test robot
2022-07-07 10:13   ` Marco Elver
2022-08-07 17:33     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 05/45] asm-generic: instrument usercopy in cacheflush.h Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-12 14:17   ` Marco Elver
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 06/45] kmsan: add ReST documentation Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-07 12:34   ` Marco Elver
2022-07-15  7:42     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-15  8:52       ` Marco Elver
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 07/45] kmsan: introduce __no_sanitize_memory and __no_kmsan_checks Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-12 14:17   ` Marco Elver
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 08/45] kmsan: mark noinstr as __no_sanitize_memory Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-12 14:17   ` Marco Elver
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 09/45] x86: kmsan: pgtable: reduce vmalloc space Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-11 16:12   ` Marco Elver
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 10/45] libnvdimm/pfn_dev: increase MAX_STRUCT_PAGE_SIZE Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-11 16:26   ` Marco Elver
2022-08-03  9:41     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-08-03  9:44     ` Alexander Potapenko
2023-01-05 22:08       ` Dan Williams
2023-01-09  9:51         ` Alexander Potapenko
2023-01-09 22:06           ` Dan Williams
2023-01-10  5:56             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-10  6:55               ` Dan Williams
2023-01-10  8:48                 ` Alexander Potapenko
2023-01-10  8:52                   ` Alexander Potapenko
2023-01-10  8:53                   ` Eric Dumazet
2023-01-10  8:55                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10 15:35                       ` Steven Rostedt
2023-01-10  9:14                     ` Alexander Potapenko
2023-01-30  8:34         ` Alexander Potapenko
2023-01-30 18:57           ` Dan Williams
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 11/45] kmsan: add KMSAN runtime core Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-02  0:18   ` Hillf Danton
2022-08-03 17:25     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-11 16:49   ` Marco Elver
2022-08-03 18:14     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-13 10:04   ` Marco Elver
2022-08-03 17:45     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 12/45] kmsan: disable instrumentation of unsupported common kernel code Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-12 11:54   ` Marco Elver
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 13/45] MAINTAINERS: add entry for KMSAN Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-12 12:06   ` Marco Elver
2022-08-02 16:39     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 14/45] mm: kmsan: maintain KMSAN metadata for page operations Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-12 12:20   ` Marco Elver
2022-08-03 10:30     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 15/45] mm: kmsan: call KMSAN hooks from SLUB code Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-12 13:13   ` Marco Elver
2022-08-02 16:31     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 16/45] kmsan: handle task creation and exiting Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-12 13:17   ` Marco Elver
2022-08-02 15:47     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 17/45] init: kmsan: call KMSAN initialization routines Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-12 14:05   ` Marco Elver
2022-08-02 20:07     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-08-03  9:08       ` Marco Elver
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 18/45] instrumented.h: add KMSAN support Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-12 13:51   ` Marco Elver
2022-08-03 11:17     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 19/45] kmsan: unpoison @tlb in arch_tlb_gather_mmu() Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-13  9:28   ` Marco Elver
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 20/45] kmsan: add iomap support Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 21/45] Input: libps2: mark data received in __ps2_command() as initialized Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 22/45] dma: kmsan: unpoison DMA mappings Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 23/45] virtio: kmsan: check/unpoison scatterlist in vring_map_one_sg() Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 24/45] kmsan: handle memory sent to/from USB Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 25/45] kmsan: add tests for KMSAN Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-12 14:16   ` Marco Elver
2022-08-02 17:29     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 26/45] kmsan: disable strscpy() optimization under KMSAN Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 27/45] crypto: kmsan: disable accelerated configs " Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 28/45] kmsan: disable physical page merging in biovec Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 29/45] block: kmsan: skip bio block merging logic for KMSAN Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-13 10:22   ` Marco Elver
2022-08-02 17:47     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 30/45] kcov: kmsan: unpoison area->list in kcov_remote_area_put() Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 31/45] security: kmsan: fix interoperability with auto-initialization Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 32/45] objtool: kmsan: list KMSAN API functions as uaccess-safe Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 33/45] x86: kmsan: disable instrumentation of unsupported code Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-12 13:43   ` Marco Elver
2022-08-03 10:52     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:22 ` [PATCH v4 34/45] x86: kmsan: skip shadow checks in __switch_to() Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:23 ` [PATCH v4 35/45] x86: kmsan: handle open-coded assembly in lib/iomem.c Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:23 ` [PATCH v4 36/45] x86: kmsan: use __msan_ string functions where possible Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:23 ` [PATCH v4 37/45] x86: kmsan: sync metadata pages on page fault Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:23 ` [PATCH v4 38/45] x86: kasan: kmsan: support CONFIG_GENERIC_CSUM on x86, enable it for KASAN/KMSAN Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:23 ` [PATCH v4 39/45] x86: fs: kmsan: disable CONFIG_DCACHE_WORD_ACCESS Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:23 ` [PATCH v4 40/45] x86: kmsan: don't instrument stack walking functions Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:23 ` [PATCH v4 41/45] entry: kmsan: introduce kmsan_unpoison_entry_regs() Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:23 ` [PATCH v4 42/45] bpf: kmsan: initialize BPF registers with zeroes Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:23 ` [PATCH v4 43/45] namei: initialize parameters passed to step_into() Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-02 17:23   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-03  3:59     ` Al Viro
2022-07-04  2:52     ` Al Viro
2022-07-04  8:20       ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-04 13:44         ` Al Viro
2022-07-04 13:55           ` Al Viro
2022-07-04 15:49           ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-04 16:03             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-07-04 16:33               ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-04 18:23             ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-07-04 16:00           ` Al Viro
2022-07-04 16:47             ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-04 17:36       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-04 19:02         ` Al Viro
2022-07-04 19:16           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-04 19:55             ` Al Viro
2022-07-04 20:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-04 20:46                 ` Al Viro
2022-07-04 20:51                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-04 21:04                     ` Al Viro
2022-07-04 23:13                       ` [PATCH 1/7] __follow_mount_rcu(): verify that mount_lock remains unchanged Al Viro
2022-07-04 23:14                         ` [PATCH 2/7] follow_dotdot{,_rcu}(): change calling conventions Al Viro
2022-07-04 23:14                         ` [PATCH 3/7] namei: stash the sampled ->d_seq into nameidata Al Viro
2022-07-04 23:15                         ` [PATCH 4/7] step_into(): lose inode argument Al Viro
2022-07-04 23:15                         ` [PATCH 5/7] follow_dotdot{,_rcu}(): don't bother with inode Al Viro
2022-07-04 23:16                         ` [PATCH 6/7] lookup_fast(): " Al Viro
2022-07-04 23:17                         ` [PATCH 7/7] step_into(): move fetching ->d_inode past handle_mounts() Al Viro
2022-07-04 23:19                         ` [PATCH 1/7] __follow_mount_rcu(): verify that mount_lock remains unchanged Al Viro
2022-07-05  0:06                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-05  3:48                             ` Al Viro [this message]
2022-07-04 20:47                 ` [PATCH v4 43/45] namei: initialize parameters passed to step_into() Linus Torvalds
2022-08-08 16:37   ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-01 14:23 ` [PATCH v4 44/45] mm: fs: initialize fsdata passed to write_begin/write_end interface Alexander Potapenko
2022-07-04 20:07   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-04 20:30     ` Al Viro
2022-08-25 15:39     ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-08-25 16:33       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-25 21:57         ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-08-26 19:41           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-31 13:32             ` Alexander Potapenko
2022-08-25 22:13         ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-07-01 14:23 ` [PATCH v4 45/45] x86: kmsan: enable KMSAN builds for x86 Alexander Potapenko

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