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From: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: memcontrol: do not miss MEMCG_MAX events for enforced allocations
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2022 13:51:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YsSkaiL00Jk45zNd@castle> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YsMHkXJ0vAPG0lyM@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 05:30:25PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 04-07-22 17:07:32, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Sat 02-07-22 08:39:14, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 01, 2022 at 10:50:40PM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 8:35 PM Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yafang Shao reported an issue related to the accounting of bpf
> > > > > memory: if a bpf map is charged indirectly for memory consumed
> > > > > from an interrupt context and allocations are enforced, MEMCG_MAX
> > > > > events are not raised.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's not/less of an issue in a generic case because consequent
> > > > > allocations from a process context will trigger the reclaim and
> > > > > MEMCG_MAX events. However a bpf map can belong to a dying/abandoned
> > > > > memory cgroup, so it might never happen.
> > > > 
> > > > The patch looks good but the above sentence is confusing. What might
> > > > never happen? Reclaim or MAX event on dying memcg?
> > > 
> > > Direct reclaim and MAX events. I agree it might be not clear without
> > > looking into the code. How about something like this?
> > > 
> > > "It's not/less of an issue in a generic case because consequent
> > > allocations from a process context will trigger the direct reclaim
> > > and MEMCG_MAX events will be raised. However a bpf map can belong
> > > to a dying/abandoned memory cgroup, so there will be no allocations
> > > from a process context and no MEMCG_MAX events will be triggered."
> > 
> > Could you expand little bit more on the situation? Can those charges to
> > offline memcg happen indefinetely? How can it ever go away then? Also is
> > this something that we actually want to encourage?
> 
> One more question. Mostly out of curiosity. How is userspace actually
> acting on those events? Are watchers still active on those dead memcgs?

Idk, the whole problem was reported by Yafang, so he probably has a better
answer. But in general events are recursive and the cgroup doesn't have
to be dying, it can be simple abandoned.

Thanks!


  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-05 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-02  3:35 [PATCH] mm: memcontrol: do not miss MEMCG_MAX events for enforced allocations Roman Gushchin
2022-07-02  5:50 ` Shakeel Butt
2022-07-02 15:39   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-07-03  5:36     ` Shakeel Butt
2022-07-03 22:50       ` Roman Gushchin
2022-07-04 15:07     ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-04 15:30       ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-05 20:51         ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
2022-07-06  2:40           ` Yafang Shao
2022-07-07  7:47             ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-05 20:49       ` Roman Gushchin
2022-07-06  2:46         ` Yafang Shao
2022-07-06  3:28           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-07-06  3:42             ` Yafang Shao
2022-07-06  3:56               ` Roman Gushchin
2022-07-06  4:02                 ` Yafang Shao
2022-07-06  4:19                   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-07-06  4:33                     ` Yafang Shao
2022-07-07 22:41                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-08  3:18                   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-07-04 15:12 ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-05 20:55   ` Roman Gushchin

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