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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	davem@davemloft.net, daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org,
	tj@kernel.org, kafai@fb.com, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 0/5] bpf: BPF specific memory allocator.
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2022 18:55:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YsXMmBf9Xsp61I0m@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220706175034.y4hw5gfbswxya36z@MacBook-Pro-3.local>

On Wed, Jul 06, 2022 at 10:50:34AM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 09:34:23PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 12:03:08AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > I'd suggest you discuss you needs with the slab mainainers and the mm
> > > community firs.
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 05:32:25PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > > From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
> > > > 
> > > > Introduce any context BPF specific memory allocator.
> > > > 
> > > > Tracing BPF programs can attach to kprobe and fentry. Hence they
> > > > run in unknown context where calling plain kmalloc() might not be safe.
> > > > Front-end kmalloc() with per-cpu per-bucket cache of free elements.
> > > > Refill this cache asynchronously from irq_work.
> > 
> > I can't tell from your description whether a bump allocator would work
> > for you.  That is, can you tell which allocations need to persist past
> > program execution (and use kmalloc for them) and which can be freed as
> > soon as the program has finished (and can use the bump allocator)?
> > 
> > If so, we already have one for you, the page_frag allocator
> > (Documentation/vm/page_frags.rst).  It might need to be extended to meet
> > your needs, but it's certainly faster than the kmalloc allocator.
> 
> Already looked at it, and into mempool, and everything we could find.
> All 'normal' allocators sooner or later synchornously call into page_alloc,

Today it does, yes.  But it might be adaptable to your needs if only I
knew what those needs were.  For example, I assume that a BPF program
has a fairly tight limit on how much memory it can cause to be allocated.
Right?



  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-06 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20220623003230.37497-1-alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
2022-06-27  7:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next 0/5] bpf: BPF specific memory allocator Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-28  0:17   ` Christoph Lameter
2022-06-28  5:01     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-06-28 13:57       ` Christoph Lameter
2022-06-28 17:03         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-06-29  2:35           ` Christoph Lameter
2022-06-29  2:49             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-04 16:13               ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-07-06 17:43                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-19 11:52                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-07-04 20:34   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-06 17:50     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-06 17:55       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2022-07-06 18:05         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-06 18:21           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-06 18:26             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-06 18:31               ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-06 18:36                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-06 18:40                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-06 18:51                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-06 18:55                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-08 13:41           ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-08 17:48             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-08 20:13               ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-07-08 21:55               ` Shakeel Butt
2022-07-10  5:26                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-10  7:32                   ` Shakeel Butt
2022-07-11 12:15                     ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-12  4:39                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-12  7:40                         ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-12  8:39                           ` Yafang Shao
2022-07-12  9:52                             ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-12 15:25                               ` Shakeel Butt
2022-07-12 16:32                                 ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-12 17:26                                   ` Shakeel Butt
2022-07-12 17:36                                     ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-12 18:11                                       ` Shakeel Butt
2022-07-12 18:43                                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-13 13:56                                           ` Yafang Shao
2022-07-12 19:11                                         ` Mina Almasry
2022-07-12 16:24                               ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-18 14:13                                 ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-13  2:39                               ` Roman Gushchin
2022-07-13 14:24                                 ` Yafang Shao
2022-07-13 16:24                                   ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-14  6:15                                     ` Yafang Shao
2022-07-18 17:55                                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-07-19 11:30                                   ` cgroup specific sticky resources (was: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 0/5] bpf: BPF specific memory allocator.) Michal Hocko
2022-07-19 18:00                                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-07-19 18:01                                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-07-19 18:46                                       ` Mina Almasry
2022-07-19 19:16                                         ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-19 19:30                                           ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-07-19 19:38                                             ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-19 19:40                                               ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-07-19 19:47                                               ` Mina Almasry
2022-07-19 19:54                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-19 20:16                                                   ` Mina Almasry
2022-07-19 20:29                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-20 12:26                                         ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-12 18:40                           ` [PATCH bpf-next 0/5] bpf: BPF specific memory allocator Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-18 12:27                             ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-13  2:27                           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-07-11 12:22               ` Michal Hocko

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