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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	joel.granados@kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] proc: Avoid costly high-order page allocations when reading proc files
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 14:17:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-0q0LIsb03f9TfC@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c6823186-9267-418c-a676-390be9d4524d@suse.cz>

On Wed 02-04-25 11:25:12, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 4/2/25 10:42, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 12:15 PM Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 07:01:04AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On April 1, 2025 12:30:46 AM PDT, Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >While investigating a kcompactd 100% CPU utilization issue in production, I
> >> > >observed frequent costly high-order (order-6) page allocations triggered by
> >> > >proc file reads from monitoring tools. This can be reproduced with a simple
> >> > >test case:
> >> > >
> >> > >  fd = open(PROC_FILE, O_RDONLY);
> >> > >  size = read(fd, buff, 256KB);
> >> > >  close(fd);
> >> > >
> >> > >Although we should modify the monitoring tools to use smaller buffer sizes,
> >> > >we should also enhance the kernel to prevent these expensive high-order
> >> > >allocations.
> >> > >
> >> > >Signed-off-by: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
> >> > >Cc: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
> >> > >---
> >> > > fs/proc/proc_sysctl.c | 10 +++++++++-
> >> > > 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >> > >
> >> > >diff --git a/fs/proc/proc_sysctl.c b/fs/proc/proc_sysctl.c
> >> > >index cc9d74a06ff0..c53ba733bda5 100644
> >> > >--- a/fs/proc/proc_sysctl.c
> >> > >+++ b/fs/proc/proc_sysctl.c
> >> > >@@ -581,7 +581,15 @@ static ssize_t proc_sys_call_handler(struct kiocb *iocb, struct iov_iter *iter,
> >> > >     error = -ENOMEM;
> >> > >     if (count >= KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE)
> >> > >             goto out;
> >> > >-    kbuf = kvzalloc(count + 1, GFP_KERNEL);
> >> > >+
> >> > >+    /*
> >> > >+     * Use vmalloc if the count is too large to avoid costly high-order page
> >> > >+     * allocations.
> >> > >+     */
> >> > >+    if (count < (PAGE_SIZE << PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER))
> >> > >+            kbuf = kvzalloc(count + 1, GFP_KERNEL);
> >> >
> >> > Why not move this check into kvmalloc family?
> >>
> >> Hmm should this check really be in kvmalloc family?
> > 
> > Modifying the existing kvmalloc functions risks performance regressions.
> > Could we instead introduce a new variant like vkmalloc() (favoring
> > vmalloc over kmalloc) or kvmalloc_costless()?
> 
> We have gfp flags and kmalloc_gfp_adjust() to moderate how aggressive
> kmalloc() is before the vmalloc() fallback. It does e.g.:
> 
>                 if (!(flags & __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL))
>                         flags |= __GFP_NORETRY;
> 
> However if your problem is kcompactd utilization then the kmalloc() attempt
> would have to avoid ___GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM to avoid waking up kswapd and then
> kcompactd. Should we remove the flag for costly orders? Dunno. Ideally the
> deferred compaction mechanism would limit the issue in the first place.

Yes, triggering heavy compation for costly allocations seems to be quite
bad. We have GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL for that purpose if the caller really
needs the allocation to try really hard.

> The ad-hoc fixing up of a particular place (/proc files reading) or creating
> a new vkmalloc() and then spreading its use as you see other places
> triggering the issue seems quite suboptimal to me.

Yes I absolutely agree.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-02 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250401073046.51121-1-laoar.shao@gmail.com>
2025-04-01 14:01 ` [PATCH] proc: Avoid costly high-order page allocations when reading proc files Kees Cook
2025-04-01 14:50   ` Yafang Shao
2025-04-02  4:15   ` Harry Yoo
2025-04-02  8:42     ` Yafang Shao
2025-04-02  9:25       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-02 12:17         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2025-04-02 18:25         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-02 11:32       ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-02 12:24         ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-02 17:24           ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-04-02 18:30             ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-02 22:38             ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-02 21:16           ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-02 23:10             ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-03  1:22               ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-03  3:32                 ` Yafang Shao
2025-04-03  5:05                 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-03  7:20                   ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-03  4:37           ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-03  7:22             ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-03  7:43               ` [PATCH] mm: kvmalloc: make kmalloc fast path real fast path Michal Hocko
2025-04-03  8:24                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-03  8:59                   ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-03 16:21                 ` Kees Cook
2025-04-03 19:49                   ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-04 15:33                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-04-03 18:30                 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-03 19:51                 ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-09  1:10                   ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-04 18:42                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-04-09  7:35                   ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-09  9:11                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-09 12:20                       ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-09 12:23                         ` Vlastimil Babka

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