From: Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>
To: Asahi Lina <lina@asahilina.net>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Jann Horn" <jannh@google.com>,
"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
"Valentin Obst" <kernel@valentinobst.de>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, airlied@redhat.com,
"Abdiel Janulgue" <abdiel.janulgue@gmail.com>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
asahi@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] rust: page: Support borrowing `struct page` and physaddr conversion
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 10:58:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z6CTLB2NggwYafi9@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250202-rust-page-v1-0-e3170d7fe55e@asahilina.net>
On Sun, Feb 02, 2025 at 10:05:42PM +0900, Asahi Lina wrote:
> This series refactors the existing Page wrapper to support borrowing
> `struct page` objects without ownership on the Rust side, and converting
> page references to/from physical memory addresses.
>
> The series overlaps with the earlier submission in [1] and follows a
> different approach, based on the discussion that happened there.
>
> The primary use case for this is implementing IOMMU-style page table
> management in Rust. This allows drivers for IOMMUs and MMU-containing
> SoC devices to be written in Rust (such as embedded GPUs). The intended
> logic is similar to how ARM SMMU page tables are managed in the
> drivers/iommu tree.
>
> First, introduce a concept of Owned<T> and an Ownable trait. These are
> similar to ARef<T> and AlwaysRefCounted, but are used for types which
> are not ref counted but rather have a single intended owner.
>
> Then, refactor the existing Page support to use the new mechanism. Pages
> returned from the page allocator are not intended to be ref counted by
> consumers (see previous discussion in [1]), so this keeps Rust's view of
> page ownership as a simple "owned or not". Of course, this is still
> composable as Arc<Owned<Page>> if Rust code needs to reference count its
> own Page allocations for whatever reason.
I think there's a bit a potential mess here because the conversion to
folios isn't far enough yet that we can entirely ignore page refcounts and
just use folio refcounts. But I guess we can deal with that oddity if we
hit it (maybe folio conversion moves fast enough), since this only really
starts to become relevant for hmm/svm gpu stuff.
iow I think anticipating the future where struct page really doesn't have
a refcount is the right move. Aside from that it's really not a refcount
that works in the rust ARef sense, since struct page cannot disappear for
system memory, and for dev_pagemap memory it's an entirely different
reference you need (and then there's a few more special cases).
For dma/iommu stuff there's also a push to move towards pfn + metadata
model, so that p2pdma doesn't need struct page. But I haven't looked into
that much yet.
Cheers, Sima
> Then, make some existing private methods public, since this is needed to
> reasonably use allocated pages as IOMMU page tables.
>
> Along the way we also add a small module to represent a core kernel
> address types (PhysicalAddr, DmaAddr, ResourceSize, Pfn). In the future,
> this might grow with helpers to make address math safer and more
> Rust-like.
>
> Finally, add methods to:
> - Get a page's physical address
> - Convert an owned Page into its physical address
> - Convert a physical address back to its owned Page
> - Borrow a Page from a physical address, in both checked (with checks
> that a struct page exists and is accessible as regular RAM) and not
> checked forms (useful when the user knows the physaddr is valid,
> for example because it got it from Page::into_phys()).
>
> Of course, all but the first two have to be `unsafe` by nature, but that
> comes with the territory of writing low level memory management code.
>
> These methods allow page table code to know the physical address of
> pages (needed to build intermediate level PTEs) and to essentially
> transfer ownership of the pages into the page table structure itself,
> and back into Page objects when freeing page tables. Without that, the
> code would have to keep track of page allocations in duplicate, once in
> Rust code and once in the page table structure itself, which is less
> desirable.
>
> For Apple GPUs, the address space shared between firmware and the driver
> is actually pre-allocated by the bootloader, with the top level page
> table already pre-allocated, and the firmware owning some PTEs within it
> while the kernel populates others. This cooperation works well when the
> kernel can reference this top level page table by physical address. The
> only thing the driver needs to ensure is that it never attempts to free
> it in this case, nor the page tables corresponding to virtual address
> ranges it doesn't own. Without the ability to just borrow the
> pre-allocated top level page and access it, the driver would have to
> special-case this and manually manage the top level PTEs outside the
> main page table code, as well as introduce different page table
> configurations with different numbers of levels so the kernel's view is
> one lever shallower.
>
> The physical address borrow feature is also useful to generate virtual
> address space dumps for crash dumps, including firmware pages. The
> intent is that firmware pages are configured in the Device Tree as
> reserved System RAM (without no-map), which creates struct page objects
> for them and makes them available in the kernel's direct map. Then the
> driver's page table code can walk the page tables and make a snapshot of
> the entire address space, including firmware code and data pages,
> pre-allocated shared segments, and driver-allocated objects (which are
> GEM objects), again without special casing anything. The checks in
> `Page::borrow_phys()` should ensure that the page is safe to access as
> RAM, so this will skip MMIO pages and anything that wasn't declared to
> the kernel in the DT.
>
> Example usage:
> https://github.com/AsahiLinux/linux/blob/gpu/rust-wip/drivers/gpu/drm/asahi/pgtable.rs
>
> The last patch is a minor cleanup to the Page abstraction noticed while
> preparing this series.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20241119112408.779243-1-abdiel.janulgue@gmail.com/T/#u
>
> Signed-off-by: Asahi Lina <lina@asahilina.net>
> ---
> Asahi Lina (6):
> rust: types: Add Ownable/Owned types
> rust: page: Convert to Ownable
> rust: page: Make with_page_mapped() and with_pointer_into_page() public
> rust: addr: Add a module to declare core address types
> rust: page: Add physical address conversion functions
> rust: page: Make Page::as_ptr() pub(crate)
>
> rust/helpers/page.c | 26 ++++++++++++
> rust/kernel/addr.rs | 15 +++++++
> rust/kernel/lib.rs | 1 +
> rust/kernel/page.rs | 101 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------
> rust/kernel/types.rs | 110 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 5 files changed, 236 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
> ---
> base-commit: ffd294d346d185b70e28b1a28abe367bbfe53c04
> change-id: 20250202-rust-page-80892069fc78
>
> Cheers,
> ~~ Lina
>
--
Simona Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-03 9:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-02 13:05 [PATCH 0/6] rust: page: Support borrowing `struct page` and physaddr conversion Asahi Lina
2025-02-02 13:05 ` [PATCH 1/6] rust: types: Add Ownable/Owned types Asahi Lina
2025-02-03 9:13 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-02-03 14:17 ` Asahi Lina
2025-02-03 18:17 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-02-03 19:17 ` Asahi Lina
2025-02-19 8:34 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-19 8:37 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-02 13:05 ` [PATCH 2/6] rust: page: Convert to Ownable Asahi Lina
2025-02-03 9:17 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-02-03 9:39 ` Fiona Behrens
2025-02-19 8:46 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-02 13:05 ` [PATCH 3/6] rust: page: Make with_page_mapped() and with_pointer_into_page() public Asahi Lina
2025-02-03 9:10 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-02-03 9:43 ` Fiona Behrens
2025-02-19 8:48 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-02 13:05 ` [PATCH 4/6] rust: addr: Add a module to declare core address types Asahi Lina
2025-02-03 9:09 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-02-03 15:04 ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-04 11:50 ` Asahi Lina
2025-02-04 14:50 ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-19 8:51 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-02 13:05 ` [PATCH 5/6] rust: page: Add physical address conversion functions Asahi Lina
2025-02-03 9:35 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-02-04 11:43 ` Asahi Lina
2025-02-03 9:53 ` Fiona Behrens
2025-02-03 10:01 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-02-19 9:06 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-02 13:05 ` [PATCH 6/6] rust: page: Make Page::as_ptr() pub(crate) Asahi Lina
2025-02-03 9:08 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-02-19 9:08 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-03 9:58 ` Simona Vetter [this message]
2025-02-03 14:32 ` [PATCH 0/6] rust: page: Support borrowing `struct page` and physaddr conversion Asahi Lina
2025-02-03 21:05 ` Zi Yan
2025-02-04 10:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-04 11:41 ` Asahi Lina
2025-02-04 11:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-04 13:05 ` Asahi Lina
2025-02-04 14:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-04 17:59 ` Asahi Lina
2025-02-04 20:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-04 21:06 ` Asahi Lina
2025-02-06 17:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-06 19:18 ` Asahi Lina
2025-02-06 19:27 ` Asahi Lina
2025-02-12 19:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-12 19:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-05 7:40 ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-12 19:07 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-04 10:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-04 18:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-04 19:01 ` Asahi Lina
2025-02-04 20:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-04 20:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-04 20:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-04 20:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-04 21:18 ` Asahi Lina
2025-02-06 18:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-04 20:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-05 23:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-02-06 18:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-03 10:22 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-03 14:41 ` Asahi Lina
2025-02-15 19:47 ` Asahi Lina
2025-02-17 8:50 ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-02-19 9:24 ` Andreas Hindborg
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