From: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
"Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com>,
Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
Rohan Puri <rohan.puri15@gmail.com>,
Adam Manzanares <a.manzanares@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Enable >0 order folio memory compaction
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 20:14:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZQu1EhQiV8h5Jsa6@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5ac6a387-0ca7-45ca-bebc-c3bdd48452cb@nvidia.com>
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 07:05:25PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 9/20/23 18:16, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 05:55:51PM -0700, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > > Are there other known recipes test help test this stuff?
> >
> > You know, it got me wondering... since how memory fragmented a system
> > might be by just running fstests, because, well, we already have
> > that automated in kdevops and it also has LBS support for all the
> > different large block sizes on 4k sector size. So if we just had a
> > way to "measure" or "quantify" memory fragmentation with a score,
> > we could just tally up how we did after 4 hours of testing for each
> > block size with a set of memory on the guest / target node / cloud
> > system.
> >
> > Luis
>
> I thought about it, and here is one possible way to quantify
> fragmentation with just a single number. Take this with some
> skepticism because it is a first draft sort of thing:
>
> a) Let BLOCKS be the number of 4KB pages (or more generally, then number
> of smallest sized objects allowed) in the area.
>
> b) Let FRAGS be the number of free *or* allocated chunks (no need to
> consider the size of each, as that is automatically taken into
> consideration).
>
> Then:
> fragmentation percentage = (FRAGS / BLOCKS) * 100%
>
> This has some nice properties. For one thing, it's easy to calculate.
> For another, it can discern between these cases:
>
> Assume a 12-page area:
>
> Case 1) 6 pages allocated allocated unevenly:
>
> 1 page allocated | 1 page free | 1 page allocated | 5 pages free | 4 pages allocated
>
> fragmentation = (5 FRAGS / 12 BLOCKS) * 100% = 41.7%
>
> Case 2) 6 pages allocated evenly: every other page is allocated:
>
> fragmentation = (12 FRAGS / 12 BLOCKS) * 100% = 100%
Thanks! Will try this!
BTW stress-ng might also be a nice way to do other pathalogical things here.
Luis
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-21 3:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-12 16:28 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Enable >0 order folio memory compaction Zi Yan
2023-09-12 16:28 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] mm/compaction: add support for " Zi Yan
2023-09-12 17:32 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-09-12 17:38 ` Zi Yan
2023-09-15 9:33 ` Baolin Wang
2023-09-18 17:06 ` Zi Yan
2023-10-10 8:07 ` Huang, Ying
2023-09-12 16:28 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm/compaction: optimize >0 order folio compaction with free page split Zi Yan
2023-09-18 7:34 ` Baolin Wang
2023-09-18 17:20 ` Zi Yan
2023-09-20 8:15 ` Baolin Wang
2023-09-12 16:28 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] mm/compaction: optimize >0 order folio compaction by sorting source pages Zi Yan
2023-09-12 17:56 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-09-12 20:31 ` Zi Yan
2023-09-12 16:28 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] mm/compaction: enable compacting >0 order folios Zi Yan
2023-09-15 9:41 ` Baolin Wang
2023-09-18 17:17 ` Zi Yan
2023-09-20 14:44 ` kernel test robot
2023-09-21 0:55 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Enable >0 order folio memory compaction Luis Chamberlain
2023-09-21 1:16 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-09-21 2:05 ` John Hubbard
2023-09-21 3:14 ` Luis Chamberlain [this message]
2023-09-21 15:56 ` Zi Yan
2023-10-02 12:32 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-09 13:24 ` Zi Yan
2023-10-09 14:10 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-09 15:42 ` Zi Yan
2023-10-09 15:52 ` Zi Yan
2023-10-10 10:00 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-09 7:12 ` Huang, Ying
2023-10-09 13:43 ` Zi Yan
2023-10-10 6:08 ` Huang, Ying
2023-10-10 16:48 ` Zi Yan
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