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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	 Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] x86/mm: make sure LAM is up-to-date during context switching
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 22:29:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zeo_yUTdGKVed7ff@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cb1aaac1-4800-4cae-8aea-acba6353971c@intel.com>

On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 01:39:53PM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 3/7/24 13:04, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > I thought about doing inc_mm_tlb_gen() when LAM is updated, but it felt
> > hacky and more importantly doesn't make it clear in switch_mm_irqs_off()
> > that we correctly handle LAM updates. We can certainly add a comment,
> > but I think an explicit check for CPU LAM vs. mm LAM is much clearer.
> > 
> > WDYT?
> 
> The mm generations are literally there so that if the mm changes that
> all the CPUs know they need an update.  Changing LAM enabling is 100%
> consistent with telling other CPUs that they need an update.
> 
> I'd be curious of Andy feels differently though.

The mm generations are TLB-specific and all the code using them implies
as such (e.g. look at the checks in switch_mm_irqs_off() when prev ==
next). We can go around and update comments and/or function names to
make them more generic, but this seems excessive. If we don't, the code
becomes less clear imo.

I agree that the use case here is essentially the same (let other
CPUs know they need to write CR3), but I still think that since the LAM
case is just a simple one-time enablement, an explicit check in
switch_mm_irqs_off() would be clearer.

Just my 2c, let me know what you prefer :)

> 
> >> Considering how fun this code path is, a little effort at an actual
> >> reproduction would be really appreciated.
> > 
> > I tried reproducing it but gave up quickly. We need a certain sequence
> > of events to happen:
> > 
> > CPU 1					CPU 2
> > kthread_use_mm()
> > 					/* user thread enables LAM */
> > 					context_switch()
> > context_switch() /* to user thread */
> 
> First, it would be fine to either create a new kthread for reproduction
> purposes or to hack an existing one.  For instance, have have the LAM
> prctl() take an extra ref on the mm and stick it in a global variable:
> 
> 	mmgrab(current->mm);
> 	global_mm = current->mm;
> 
> Then in the kthread, grab the mm and use it:
> 
> 	while (!global_mm);
> 	kthread_use_mm(global_mm);
> 	... check for the race
> 	mmdrop(global_mm);
> 
> You can also hackily wait for thread to move with a stupid spin loop:
> 
> 	while (smp_processor_id() != 1);
> 
> and then actually move it with sched_setaffinity() from userspace.  That
> can make it easier to get that series of events to happen in lockstep.

I will take a stab at doing something similar and let you know, thanks.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-07 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-07 13:39 [RFC PATCH 0/3] x86/mm: LAM fixups and cleanups Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 13:39 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] x86/mm: fix LAM cr3 mask inconsistency during context switch Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 17:22   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-07 20:31     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 17:36   ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-07 18:49     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07 20:44       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 22:12         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07 20:42     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 23:21       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 23:32         ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-07 23:37           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 13:39 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] x86/mm: make sure LAM is up-to-date during context switching Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 15:29   ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-07 21:04     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 21:39       ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-07 22:29         ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2024-03-07 22:41           ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-07 22:44             ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-08  1:26           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-08  8:09             ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 17:29   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-07 17:56     ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-07 21:08       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 21:48         ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-07 22:30           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-08  1:34   ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-03-08  1:47     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-08 14:05       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-08 15:23     ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-08 18:18       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-09  2:19       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-09 16:34         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-09 21:37           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-11 12:42             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-11 18:27               ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 13:39 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] x86/mm: cleanup prctl_enable_tagged_addr() nr_bits error checking Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 17:31   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-07 20:27     ` Yosry Ahmed

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