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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	 "Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	 "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] x86/mm: make sure LAM is up-to-date during context switching
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 01:47:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZepuO5bDoE-5T0RB@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <420fcb06-c3c3-4e8f-a82d-be2fb2ef444d@app.fastmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 05:34:21PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> Catching up a bit...
> 
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2024, at 5:39 AM, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > During context switching, if we are not switching to new mm and no TLB
> > flush is needed, we do not write CR3. However, it is possible that a
> > user thread enables LAM while a kthread is running on a different CPU
> > with the old LAM CR3 mask. If the kthread context switches into any
> > thread of that user process, it may not write CR3 with the new LAM mask,
> > which would cause the user thread to run with a misconfigured CR3 that
> > disables LAM on the CPU.
> 
> So I think (off the top of my head -- haven't thought about it all that hard) that LAM is logically like PCE and LDT: it's a property of an mm that is only rarely changed, and it doesn't really belong as part of the tlb_gen mechanism.  And, critically, it's not worth the effort and complexity to try to optimize LAM changes when we have a lazy CPU (just like PCE and LDT) (whereas TLB flushes are performance critical and are absolutely worth optimizing).
> 
> So...
> 
> >
> > Fix this by making sure we write a new CR3 if LAM is not up-to-date. No
> > problems were observed in practice, this was found by code inspection.
> 
> I think it should be fixed with a much bigger hammer: explicit IPIs.  Just don't ever let it get out of date, like install_ldt().

I like this, and I think earlier versions of the code did this. I think
the code now assumes it's fine to not send an IPI since only
single-threaded processes can enable LAM, but this means we have to
handle kthreads switching to user threads with outdated LAMs (what this
patch is trying to do).

I also think there is currently an assumption that it's fine for
kthreads to run with an incorrect LAM, which is mostly fine, but the IPI
also drops that assumption.

> 
> >
> > Not that it is possible that mm->context.lam_cr3_mask changes throughout
> > switch_mm_irqs_off(). But since LAM can only be enabled by a
> > single-threaded process on its own behalf, in that case we cannot be
> > switching to a user thread in that same process, we can only be
> > switching to another kthread using the borrowed mm or a different user
> > process, which should be fine.
> 
> The thought process is even simpler with the IPI: it *can* change while switching, but it will resynchronize immediately once IRQs turn back on.  And whoever changes it will *synchronize* with us, which would otherwise require extremely complex logic to get right.
> 
> And...
> 
> > -		if (!was_lazy)
> > -			return;
> > +		if (was_lazy) {
> > +			/*
> > +			 * Read the tlb_gen to check whether a flush is needed.
> > +			 * If the TLB is up to date, just use it.  The barrier
> > +			 * synchronizes with the tlb_gen increment in the TLB
> > +			 * shootdown code.
> > +			 */
> > +			smp_mb();
> 
> This is actually rather expensive -- from old memory, we're talking maybe 20 cycles here, but this path is *very* hot and we try fairly hard to make it be fast.  If we get the happy PCID path, it's maybe 100-200 cycles, so this is like a 10% regression.  Ouch.

This is not newly introduced by this patch. I merely refactored this
code (reversed the if conditions). I think if we keep the current
approach I should move this refactoring to a separate patch to make
things clearer.

> 
> And you can delete all of this if you accept my suggestion.

I like it very much. The problem now is, as I told Dave, I realized I
cannot do any testing beyond compilation due to lack of hardware. I am
happy to send a next version if this is acceptable or if someone else
can test.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-08  1:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-07 13:39 [RFC PATCH 0/3] x86/mm: LAM fixups and cleanups Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 13:39 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] x86/mm: fix LAM cr3 mask inconsistency during context switch Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 17:22   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-07 20:31     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 17:36   ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-07 18:49     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07 20:44       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 22:12         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07 20:42     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 23:21       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 23:32         ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-07 23:37           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 13:39 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] x86/mm: make sure LAM is up-to-date during context switching Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 15:29   ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-07 21:04     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 21:39       ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-07 22:29         ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 22:41           ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-07 22:44             ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-08  1:26           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-08  8:09             ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 17:29   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-07 17:56     ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-07 21:08       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 21:48         ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-07 22:30           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-08  1:34   ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-03-08  1:47     ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2024-03-08 14:05       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-08 15:23     ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-08 18:18       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-09  2:19       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-09 16:34         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-09 21:37           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-11 12:42             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-11 18:27               ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 13:39 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] x86/mm: cleanup prctl_enable_tagged_addr() nr_bits error checking Yosry Ahmed
2024-03-07 17:31   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-07 20:27     ` Yosry Ahmed

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