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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 12/12] mm/gup: Handle hugetlb in the generic follow_page_mask code
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 11:55:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zf2p38Pb51T3e9uB@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240322133012.GI159172@nvidia.com>

Jason,

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 10:30:12AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 06:08:02PM -0400, peterx@redhat.com wrote:
> 
> > A quick performance test on an aarch64 VM on M1 chip shows 15% degrade over
> > a tight loop of slow gup after the path switched.  That shouldn't be a
> > problem because slow-gup should not be a hot path for GUP in general: when
> > page is commonly present, fast-gup will already succeed, while when the
> > page is indeed missing and require a follow up page fault, the slow gup
> > degrade will probably buried in the fault paths anyway.  It also explains
> > why slow gup for THP used to be very slow before 57edfcfd3419 ("mm/gup:
> > accelerate thp gup even for "pages != NULL"") lands, the latter not part of
> > a performance analysis but a side benefit.  If the performance will be a
> > concern, we can consider handle CONT_PTE in follow_page().
> 
> I think this is probably fine for the moment, at least for this
> series, as CONT_PTE is still very new.
> 
> But it will need to be optimized. "slow" GUP is the only GUP that is
> used by FOLL_LONGTERM and it still needs to be optimized because you
> can't assume a FOLL_LONGTERM user will be hitting the really slow
> fault path. There are enough important cases where it is just reading
> already populted page tables, and these days, often with large folios.

Ah, I thought FOLL_LONGTERM should work in most cases for fast-gup,
especially for hugetlb, but maybe I missed something?  I do see that devmap
skips fast-gup for LONGTERM, we also have that writeback issue but none of
those that I can find applies to hugetlb.  This might be a problem indeed
if we have hugetlb cont_pte pages that will constantly fallback to slow
gup.

OTOH, I also agree with you that such batching would be nice to have for
slow-gup, likely devmap or many fs (exclude shmem/hugetlb) file mappings
can at least benefit from it due to above.  But then that'll be a more
generic issue to solve, IOW, we still don't do that for !hugetlb cont_pte
large folios, before or after this series.

> 
> Reviewed-by: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>

Thanks!

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-22 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-21 22:07 [PATCH v3 00/12] mm/gup: Unify hugetlb, part 2 peterx
2024-03-21 22:07 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] mm/Kconfig: CONFIG_PGTABLE_HAS_HUGE_LEAVES peterx
2024-03-21 22:07 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] mm/hugetlb: Declare hugetlbfs_pagecache_present() non-static peterx
2024-03-21 22:07 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] mm: Make HPAGE_PXD_* macros even if !THP peterx
2024-03-22 17:14   ` SeongJae Park
2024-03-23  0:30     ` Peter Xu
2024-03-23  1:05       ` SeongJae Park
2024-03-21 22:07 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] mm: Introduce vma_pgtable_walk_{begin|end}() peterx
2024-03-22 12:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-21 22:07 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] mm/gup: Refactor record_subpages() to find 1st small page peterx
2024-03-21 22:07 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] mm/gup: Handle hugetlb for no_page_table() peterx
2024-03-21 22:07 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] mm/gup: Cache *pudp in follow_pud_mask() peterx
2024-03-21 22:07 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] mm/gup: Handle huge pud for follow_pud_mask() peterx
2024-03-21 22:08 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] mm/gup: Handle hugepd for follow_page() peterx
2024-03-21 22:08 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] mm/gup: Handle hugetlb in the generic follow_page_mask code peterx
2024-03-22 13:30   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-22 15:55     ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-03-22 16:08       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-22 20:48   ` Andrew Morton
2024-03-23  0:45     ` Peter Xu
2024-03-23  2:15       ` Peter Xu
     [not found] ` <20240321220802.679544-6-peterx@redhat.com>
2024-03-22 12:28   ` [PATCH v3 05/12] mm/gup: Drop folio_fast_pin_allowed() in hugepd processing Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-22 16:10 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] mm/gup: Unify hugetlb, part 2 Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-25 18:58   ` Peter Xu
2024-03-26 14:02     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 21:48       ` Peter Xu
2024-04-05 18:16         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-05 21:42           ` Peter Xu
2024-04-09 23:43             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-10 15:28               ` Peter Xu
2024-04-10 16:30                 ` Christophe Leroy
2024-04-10 19:58                   ` Peter Xu
2024-04-12 14:27                     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:56 ` Christophe Leroy

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