From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 13/20] KVM: SEV: Implement gmem hook for initializing private pages
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 16:15:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkvZkPvHqqPnVa9k@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e771a7ba-0445-483e-9c42-66bd5b331dce@intel.com>
On Tue, May 21, 2024, Kai Huang wrote:
> On 21/05/2024 5:35 am, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Mon, May 20, 2024, Kai Huang wrote:
> > > I am wondering whether this can be done in the KVM page fault handler?
> >
> > No, because the state of a pfn in the RMP is tied to the guest_memfd inode,
> > not to the file descriptor, i.e. not to an individual VM.
>
> It's strange that as state of a PFN of SNP doesn't bind to individual VM, at
> least for the private pages. The command rpm_make_private() indeed reflects
> the mapping between PFN <-> <GFN, SSID>.
s/SSID/ASID
KVM allows a single ASID to be bound to multiple "struct kvm" instances, e.g.
for intra-host migration. If/when trusted I/O is a thing, presumably KVM will
also need to share the ASID with other entities, e.g. IOMMUFD.
> rc = rmp_make_private(pfn_aligned, gfn_to_gpa(gfn_aligned),
> level, sev->asid, false);
>
> > And the NPT page tables are treated as ephemeral for SNP.
>
> Do you mean private mappings for SNP guest can be zapped from the VM (the
> private pages are still there unchanged) and re-mapped later w/o needing to
> have guest's explicit acceptance?
Correct.
> If so, I think "we can zap" doesn't mean "we need to zap"?
Correct.
> Because the privates are now pinned anyway.
Pinning is an orthogonal issue. And it's not so much that the pfns are pinned
as it is that guest_memfd simply doesn't support page migration or swap at this
time.
Regardless of whether or not guest_memfd supports page migration, KVM needs to
track the state of the physical page in guest_memfd, e.g. if it's been assigned
to the ASID versus if it's still in a shared state.
> If we truly want to zap private mappings for SNP, IIUC it can be done by
> distinguishing whether a VM needs to use a separate private table, which is
> TDX-only.
I wouldn't say we "want" to zap private mappings for SNP, rather that it's a lot
less work to keep KVM's existing behavior (literally do nothing) than it is to
rework the MMU and whatnot to not zap SPTEs. And there's no big motivation to
avoid zapping because SNP VMs are unlikely to delete memslots.
If it turns out that it's easy to preserve SNP mappings after TDX lands, then we
can certainly go that route, but AFAIK there's no reason to force the issue.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-20 23:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-01 8:51 [PATCH v15 00/20] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Hypervisor Support Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:51 ` [PATCH v15 01/20] Revert "KVM: x86: Add gmem hook for determining max NPT mapping level" Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:51 ` [PATCH v15 02/20] KVM: x86: Add hook for determining max NPT mapping level Michael Roth
2024-05-02 23:11 ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-07 17:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-01 17:39 ` [PATCH] Fixes: f32fb32820b1 ("KVM: x86: Add hook for determining max NPT mapping level") Ackerley Tng
2024-08-01 17:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-01 17:59 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-01 18:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-01 8:51 ` [PATCH v15 03/20] KVM: SEV: Select KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM when CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV=y Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:51 ` [PATCH v15 04/20] KVM: SEV: Add initial SEV-SNP support Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:51 ` [PATCH v15 05/20] KVM: SEV: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_START command Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:51 ` [PATCH v15 06/20] KVM: SEV: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_UPDATE command Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:51 ` [PATCH v15 07/20] KVM: SEV: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_FINISH command Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:51 ` [PATCH v15 08/20] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle GHCB GPA register VMGEXIT Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:51 ` [PATCH v15 09/20] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle MSR based Page State Change VMGEXIT Michael Roth
2024-05-16 8:28 ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-16 17:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-21 0:49 ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-21 21:49 ` Michael Roth
2024-05-27 12:25 ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-28 10:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-29 20:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-31 1:22 ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-31 13:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-30 16:47 ` Zhi Wang
2024-05-01 8:52 ` [PATCH v15 10/20] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle " Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:52 ` [PATCH v15 11/20] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle RMP nested page faults Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:52 ` [PATCH v15 12/20] KVM: SEV: Support SEV-SNP AP Creation NAE event Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:52 ` [PATCH v15 13/20] KVM: SEV: Implement gmem hook for initializing private pages Michael Roth
2024-05-20 10:16 ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-20 17:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-20 21:57 ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-20 23:15 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-05-20 23:41 ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-21 0:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-20 19:14 ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-01 8:52 ` [PATCH v15 14/20] KVM: SEV: Implement gmem hook for invalidating " Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:52 ` [PATCH v15 15/20] KVM: x86: Implement hook for determining max NPT mapping level Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:52 ` [PATCH v15 16/20] KVM: SEV: Avoid WBINVD for HVA-based MMU notifications for SNP Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:52 ` [PATCH v15 17/20] KVM: SVM: Add module parameter to enable SEV-SNP Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:52 ` [PATCH v15 18/20] KVM: SEV: Provide support for SNP_GUEST_REQUEST NAE event Michael Roth
2024-05-01 8:52 ` [PATCH v15 19/20] KVM: SEV: Provide support for SNP_EXTENDED_GUEST_REQUEST " Michael Roth
2024-05-13 23:48 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-14 2:51 ` Michael Roth
2024-05-14 14:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 1:25 ` [PATCH] KVM: SEV: Replace KVM_EXIT_VMGEXIT with KVM_EXIT_SNP_REQ_CERTS Michael Roth
2024-08-16 21:50 ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2024-08-16 21:58 ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2024-05-01 8:52 ` [PATCH v15 20/20] crypto: ccp: Add the SNP_VLEK_LOAD command Michael Roth
2024-05-07 18:04 ` [PATCH v15 00/20] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Hypervisor Support Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-07 18:14 ` Michael Roth
2024-05-10 2:34 ` Michael Roth
2024-05-10 1:58 ` [PATCH v15 21/23] KVM: MMU: Disable fast path for private memslots Michael Roth
2024-05-10 1:58 ` [PATCH v15 22/23] KVM: SEV: Fix return code interpretation for RMP nested page faults Michael Roth
2024-05-10 13:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-10 15:36 ` Michael Roth
2024-05-10 16:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-10 16:37 ` Michael Roth
2024-05-10 16:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-10 17:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-14 8:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-05-10 1:58 ` [PATCH v15 23/23] KVM: SEV: Fix PSC handling for SMASH/UNSMASH and partial update ops Michael Roth
2024-05-10 17:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-10 19:08 ` Michael Roth
2024-05-10 13:47 ` [PATCH v15 21/23] KVM: MMU: Disable fast path for private memslots Sean Christopherson
2024-05-10 13:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-10 15:27 ` Michael Roth
2024-05-10 15:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-10 17:47 ` Isaku Yamahata
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