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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, chrisl@kernel.org,
	ying.huang@intel.com, 21cnbao@gmail.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	shy828301@gmail.com, ziy@nvidia.com, ioworker0@gmail.com,
	da.gomez@samsung.com, p.raghav@samsung.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/9] mm: filemap: use xa_get_order() to get the swap entry order
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:28:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zsu-OCxgB9OAK050@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d3dc75e2-40a7-8439-734c-19d83707164c@google.com>

On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 02:55:41PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> The second issue is that swap is more slippery to work with than
> folios or pages: in the folio_nr_pages() case, that number is stable
> because we hold a refcount (which stops a THP from being split), and
> later we'll be taking folio lock too.  None of that in the swap case,
> so (depending on how a large entry gets split) the xa_get_order() result
> is not reliable. Likewise for other uses of xa_get_order() in this series.
> 
> There needs to be some kind of locking or retry to make the order usable,
> and to avoid shmem_free_swap() occasionally freeing more than it ought.
> I'll give it thought after.

My original thought was that we'd take a bit from the swap entry in
order to indicate the order of the entry.  I was surprised to see the
xa_get_order() implementation, but didn't remember why it wouldn't work.
Sorry.

Anyway, that's how I think it should be fixed.  Is that enough?  Holding
a reference on the folio prevents truncation, splitting, and so on.
There's no reference to be held on a swap entry, so could we have some
moderately implausible series of operations while holding only the RCU
read lock that would cause us to go wrong?


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-25 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-12  7:42 [PATCH v5 0/9] support large folio swap-out and swap-in for shmem Baolin Wang
2024-08-12  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] mm: swap: extend swap_shmem_alloc() to support batch SWAP_MAP_SHMEM flag setting Baolin Wang
2024-08-12  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] mm: shmem: extend shmem_partial_swap_usage() to support large folio swap Baolin Wang
2024-08-12  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 3/9] mm: shmem: return number of pages beeing freed in shmem_free_swap Baolin Wang
2024-08-12  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 4/9] mm: filemap: use xa_get_order() to get the swap entry order Baolin Wang
2024-08-25 21:55   ` Hugh Dickins
2024-08-25 23:28     ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2024-08-27 10:10     ` Baolin Wang
2024-08-29  8:07       ` Hugh Dickins
2024-08-29 12:40         ` Baolin Wang
2024-08-30 10:18           ` Hugh Dickins
2024-08-12  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 5/9] mm: shmem: use swap_free_nr() to free shmem swap entries Baolin Wang
2024-08-12  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] mm: shmem: support large folio allocation for shmem_replace_folio() Baolin Wang
2024-08-25 22:05   ` Hugh Dickins
2024-08-27  3:06     ` Baolin Wang
2024-08-12  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] mm: shmem: drop folio reference count using 'nr_pages' in shmem_delete_from_page_cache() Baolin Wang
2024-08-12  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 8/9] mm: shmem: split large entry if the swapin folio is not large Baolin Wang
2024-08-25 22:31   ` Hugh Dickins
2024-08-27  6:46     ` Baolin Wang
2024-08-12  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] mm: shmem: support large folio swap out Baolin Wang
2024-08-25 23:14   ` Hugh Dickins
2024-08-27  6:58     ` Baolin Wang
2024-08-28  8:28     ` [PATCH] mm: shmem: support large folio swap out fix 2 Baolin Wang

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