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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
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	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
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	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
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	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/19] mm/fork: Accept huge pfnmap entries
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 18:43:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zt96CoGoMsq7icy7@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240909152546.4ef47308e560ce120156bc35@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, Sep 09, 2024 at 03:25:46PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 17:23:38 -0400 Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > @@ -1686,8 +1706,11 @@ int copy_huge_pud(struct mm_struct *dst_mm, struct mm_struct *src_mm,
> > > >  	 * TODO: once we support anonymous pages, use
> > > >  	 * folio_try_dup_anon_rmap_*() and split if duplicating fails.
> > > >  	 */
> > > > -	pudp_set_wrprotect(src_mm, addr, src_pud);
> > > > -	pud = pud_mkold(pud_wrprotect(pud));
> > > > +	if (is_cow_mapping(vma->vm_flags) && pud_write(pud)) {
> > > > +		pudp_set_wrprotect(src_mm, addr, src_pud);
> > > > +		pud = pud_wrprotect(pud);
> > > > +	}
> > > Do we need the logic to clear dirty bit in the child as that in
> > > __copy_present_ptes()?  (and also for the pmd's case).
> > > 
> > > e.g.
> > > if (vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED)
> > > 	pud = pud_mkclean(pud);
> > 
> > Yeah, good question.  I remember I thought about that when initially
> > working on these lines, but I forgot the details, or maybe I simply tried
> > to stick with the current code base, as the dirty bit used to be kept even
> > in the child here.
> > 
> > I'd expect there's only performance differences, but still sounds like I'd
> > better leave that to whoever knows the best on the implications, then draft
> > it as a separate patch but only when needed.
> 
> Sorry, but this vaguensss simply leaves me with nowhere to go.
> 
> I'll drop the series - let's revisit after -rc1 please.

Andrew, would you please explain why it needs to be dropped?

I meant in the reply that I think we should leave that as is, and I think
so far nobody in real life should care much on this bit, so I think it's
fine to leave the dirty bit as-is.

I still think whoever has a better use of the dirty bit and would like to
change the behavior should find the use case and work on top, but only if
necessary.

At least this whole fork() path is not useful at all for the use case we're
working on.  Please still consider having this series as I think it's useful.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-09 22:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-26 20:43 [PATCH v2 00/19] mm: Support huge pfnmaps Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] mm: Introduce ARCH_SUPPORTS_HUGE_PFNMAP and special bits to pmd/pud Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] mm: Drop is_huge_zero_pud() Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] mm: Mark special bits for huge pfn mappings when inject Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:31   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] mm: Allow THP orders for PFNMAPs Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:31   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] mm/gup: Detect huge pfnmap entries in gup-fast Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] mm/pagewalk: Check pfnmap for folio_walk_start() Peter Xu
2024-08-28  7:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-28 14:24     ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:30       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-28 19:45         ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 23:46           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29  6:35             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:45               ` Peter Xu
2024-08-29 15:10           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:49             ` Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] mm/fork: Accept huge pfnmap entries Peter Xu
2024-08-29 15:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:26     ` Peter Xu
2024-08-29 19:44       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 20:01         ` Peter Xu
2024-09-02  7:58   ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-03 21:23     ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 22:25       ` Andrew Morton
2024-09-09 22:43         ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-09-09 23:15           ` Andrew Morton
2024-09-10  0:08             ` Peter Xu
2024-09-10  2:52               ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-10 12:16                 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-11  2:16                   ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-11 14:34                     ` Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] mm: Always define pxx_pgprot() Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] mm: New follow_pfnmap API Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] KVM: Use " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] s390/pci_mmio: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] mm/x86/pat: Use the new " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] vfio: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] acrn: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] mm/access_process_vm: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] mm: Remove follow_pte() Peter Xu
2024-09-01  4:33   ` Yu Zhao
2024-09-01 13:39     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] mm/x86: Support large pfn mappings Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] mm/arm64: " Peter Xu
2025-03-19 22:22   ` Keith Busch
2025-03-19 22:46     ` Peter Xu
2025-03-19 22:53       ` Keith Busch
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] vfio/pci: Implement huge_fault support Peter Xu
2024-08-27 22:36 ` [PATCH v2 00/19] mm: Support huge pfnmaps Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-27 22:57   ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28  0:42     ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28  0:46       ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28 14:24       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-28 16:10         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28 23:49           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29 19:21             ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-04 15:52               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 16:38                 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-04 16:43                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 16:58                     ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-04 17:00                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 17:07                         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-09  3:56                           ` Ankit Agrawal
2024-08-28 14:41       ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 16:23         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-09  4:03 ` Ankit Agrawal
2024-09-09 15:03   ` Peter Xu

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