From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>,
Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2] Resource: fix region_intersects() for CXL memory
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 15:50:04 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ztmo_EITDSRewSka@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09d44b21-9739-417b-a76c-5383fcbde96b@redhat.com>
On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 02:42:05PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 05.09.24 14:36, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 01:08:35PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > On 05.09.24 12:56, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 04:58:20PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > > > Huang, Ying wrote:
> > > > > > Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> writes:
[..]
> > > > > > > You may move Cc list after '---', so it won't unnecessarily pollute the commit
> > > > > > > message.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Emm... It appears that it's a common practice to include "Cc" in the
> > > > > > commit log.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, just ignore this feedback, it goes against common practice. Cc list
> > > > > as is looks sane to me.
> > > >
> > > > It seems nobody can give technical arguments why it's better than just keeping
> > > > them outside of the commit message. Mantra "common practice" nowadays is
> > > > questionable.
> > >
> > > Just look at how patches look like in the git tree that Andrew picks up.
> > > (IIRC, he adds a bunch of CCs himself that are not even part of the original
> > > patch).
> >
> > I know that and it's historical, he has a lot of the scripts that work and when
> > he moved to the Git it was another long story. Now you even can see how he uses
> > Git in his quilt approach. So, it's an exceptional and not usual workflow, hence
> > bad example. Try again :-)
>
> Point is, it doesn't matter what we do in this patch here if Andrew will
> unify it at all.
Point is, that this is exceptional. And better to teach people based on better
practices, no?
> > > Having in the git tree who was actually involved/CCed can be quite valuable.
> > > More helpful than get_maintainers.pl sometimes.
> >
> > First of all, there is no guarantee they _were_ involved. From this perspective
> > having Link: tag instead has much more value and supports my side of arguments.
>
> Link is certainly preferable. Usually when I fix a commit, I make sure to CC
> the people that are listed for the patch, because it at least should have
> ended up in their mailbox.
>
> Often, it also helped to see if a buggy commit was at least CCed to the
> right persons without digging through mailing list archives.
How is it better than having it in lore.kernel.org in archives where you even
see who _actually_ participated in discussion, if any?
Again, Cc neither in the Git commit, nor in the email guarantees the people
were involved. Having Cc in the commit just a big noise that pollutes it.
Especially I do not understand at all Cc: mailing-list@bla.bla.bla cases.
They are not people, they have a lot of archives besides lore.kernel.org,
only waste of resources in all means of that. I tried to summarize that in
the submitted patches to the documentation, that I referred earlier in this
thread to.
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-05 12:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-19 2:34 [PATCH -v2] Resource: fix region_intersects() for CXL memory Huang Ying
2024-08-19 8:13 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-09-04 7:48 ` Huang, Ying
2024-09-04 12:43 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-09-05 3:00 ` Huang, Ying
2024-09-05 10:57 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-09-04 23:58 ` Dan Williams
2024-09-05 10:56 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-09-05 11:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-05 12:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-09-05 12:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-05 12:50 ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2024-09-05 12:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-07 14:24 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-09-05 21:37 ` Dan Williams
2024-10-07 14:16 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-09-06 1:07 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-07 14:12 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-08 2:52 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-08 17:01 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-10-08 19:02 ` Dan Williams
2024-10-08 19:18 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-21 18:46 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-22 1:43 ` Dan Williams
2024-08-22 21:29 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-09-04 23:58 ` Dan Williams
2024-08-30 6:43 ` Huang, Ying
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