From: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
jeremy@goop.org, hughd@google.com, ngupta@vflare.org,
Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
JBeulich@novell.com, Kurt Hackel <kurt.hackel@oracle.com>,
npiggin@kernel.dk, akpm@linux-foundation.org, riel@redhat.com,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, matthew@wil.cx,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com, jackdachef@gmail.com,
cyclonusj@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Subject: [PATCH V7 2/4] mm: frontswap: core code
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:28:05 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a2fc3885-b98d-4918-afcc-5eac083c7eb0@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110826091619.1ad27e9c.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [mailto:kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com]
> Subject: Re: Subject: [PATCH V7 2/4] mm: frontswap: core code
>
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 10:37:05 -0700 (PDT)
> Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> > > From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [mailto:kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com]
> > > Subject: Re: Subject: [PATCH V7 2/4] mm: frontswap: core code
>
> > > BTW, Do I have a chance to implement frontswap accounting per cgroup
> > > (under memcg) ? Or Do I need to enable/disale switch for frontswap per memcg ?
> > > Do you think it is worth to do ?
> >
> > I'm not very familiar with cgroups or memcg but I think it may be possible
> > to implement transcendent memory with cgroup as the "guest" and the default
> > cgroup as the "host" to allow for more memory elasticity for cgroups.
> > (See http://lwn.net/Articles/454795/ for a good overview of all of
> > transcendent memory.)
> >
> Ok, I'll see it.
>
> I just wonder following case.
>
> Assume 2 memcgs.
> memcg X: memory limit = 300M.
> memcg Y: memory limit = 300M.
>
> This limitation is done for performance isolation.
> When using frontswap, X and Y can cause resource confliction in frontswap and
> performance of X and Y cannot be predictable.
> > These are informational statistics so do not need to be protected
> > by a lock or an atomic-type. If an increment is lost due to a cpu
> > race, it is not a problem.
>
> Hmm...Personally, I don't like incorrect counters. Could you add comments ?
> Or How anout using percpu_counter ? (see lib/percpu_counter.c)
Since the exact values of these counters is not required
by any code (just information for userland), I think I will
just add a comment.
> > > What lock should be held to guard global variables ? swap_lock ?
> >
> > Which global variables do you mean and in what routines? I think the
> > page lock is required for put/get (as documented in the comments)
> > but not the swap_lock.
>
> My concern was race in counters. Even you allow race in frontswap_succ_puts++,
>
> Don't you need some lock for
> sis->frontswap_pages++
> sis->frontswap_pages--
Hmmm... OK, you've convinced me. If this counter should be one and
a race leaves it as zero, I think data corruption could result on
a swapoff or partial swapoff. And after thinking about it, I
think I also need to check for locking on frontswap_set/clear
as I don't think these bitfield modifiers are atomic.
Thanks for pointing this out. Good catch! I will need to
play with this and test it so probably will not submit V8 until
next week as today is a vacation day for me.
Dan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-26 14:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-23 14:58 Subject: [PATCH V7 2/4] mm: frontswap: core code Dan Magenheimer
2011-08-25 6:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-25 13:29 ` Seth Jennings
2011-08-25 17:52 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-08-25 17:37 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-08-26 0:16 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-26 14:28 ` Dan Magenheimer [this message]
2011-08-29 15:47 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-08-26 14:53 ` Dan Magenheimer
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