From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Aneesh Kumar K V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
mpe@ellerman.id.au, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
npiggin@gmail.com, christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 7/7] mm/memory_hotplug: Enable runtime update of memmap_on_memory parameter
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:41:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a32a9e7f-1e24-bab1-cb73-8058fed3b59c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNDjHbtm3jaWS8h8@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On 07.08.23 14:27, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Sat 05-08-23 19:54:23, Aneesh Kumar K V wrote:
> [...]
>> Do you see a need for firmware-managed memory to be hotplugged in with
>> different memory block sizes?
>
> In short. Yes. Slightly longer, a fixed size memory block semantic is
> just standing in the way and I would even argue it is actively harmful.
> Just have a look at ridicously small memory blocks on ppc. I do
> understand that it makes some sense to be aligned to the memory model
> (so sparsmem section aligned). In an ideal world, memory hotplug v2
> interface (if we ever go that path) should be physical memory range based.
Yes, we discussed that a couple of times already (and so far nobody
cared to implement any of that).
Small memory block sizes are very beneficial for use cases like PPC
dlar, virtio-mem, hyperv-balloon, ... essentially in most virtual
environments where you might want to add/remove memory in very small
granularity. I don't see that changing any time soon. Rather the opposite.
Small memory block sizes are suboptimal for large machines where you
might never end up removing such memory (boot memory), or when dealing
with devices that can only be removed in one piece (DIMM/kmem). We
already have memory groups in place to model that.
For the latter it might be beneficial to have memory blocks of larger
size that correspond to the physical memory ranges. That might also make
a memmap (re-)configuration easier.
Not sure if that is standing in any way or is harmful, though.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-07 12:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-01 4:41 [PATCH v7 0/7] Add support for memmap on memory feature on ppc64 Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-08-01 4:41 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] mm/memory_hotplug: Simplify ARCH_MHP_MEMMAP_ON_MEMORY_ENABLE kconfig Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-08-01 4:41 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] powerpc/book3s64/memhotplug: Enable memmap on memory for radix Aneesh Kumar K.V
[not found] ` <20230801044116.10674-8-aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
2023-08-01 8:58 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] mm/memory_hotplug: Enable runtime update of memmap_on_memory parameter Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <a32fe748-fa18-bd92-3a10-5da8dbad96e6@linux.ibm.com>
2023-08-01 10:50 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-02 4:45 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2023-08-02 15:50 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-02 15:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-02 15:57 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2023-08-02 16:02 ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-08-02 16:59 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-03 8:52 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-03 9:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-03 11:30 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <d71a85b1-c0ea-6451-d65c-d7c5040caf77@linux.ibm.com>
2023-08-07 12:27 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-07 12:41 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-08-07 18:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-08 6:09 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2023-08-08 6:29 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2023-08-08 7:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-07 12:54 ` David Hildenbrand
[not found] ` <20230801044116.10674-5-aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
2023-08-01 9:04 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] mm/memory_hotplug: Support memmap_on_memory when memmap is not aligned to pageblocks Michal Hocko
2023-08-01 9:07 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] Add support for memmap on memory feature on ppc64 Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20230801044116.10674-7-aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
2023-08-01 23:10 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] mm/memory_hotplug: Embed vmem_altmap details in memory block Verma, Vishal L
2023-08-02 4:47 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
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