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From: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>
To: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
	"Ryan Roberts" <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <usamaarif642@gmail.com>,
	<kas@kernel.org>, <kernel-team@meta.com>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>,
	"Accardi, Kristen C" <kristen.c.accardi@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/4] mm: huge_memory: refactor enabled_store() with change_enabled()
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 16:26:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a503cbfc-e7d9-40f0-99ef-d640a0b5d78e@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <abfVLky1zanZyEx8@gmail.com>

On 3/16/2026 3:12 AM, Breno Leitao wrote:

>> I am not a mm expert and typically do not follow the mm list. Is there
>> an issue with the usage of non-atomic variants here? The commit message
>> says this uses the same pattern as set_anon_enabled_mode().
>>
>> However, set_anon_enabled_mode() has a spinlock=>huge_anon_orders_lock
>> protecting the access. But, transparent_hugepage_flags seems to be
>> unprotected in that regard.
> 
> I don't think that the atomic vs non-atomic will not help much, given
> this is a compoud operation. Independently if this is atomic or not, it
> is racy with anyone changing these fields (transparent_hugepage_flags).
> In other words, Atomic ops make each individual bit flip safe, but
> set_global_enabled_mode() and defrag_store() need to flip multiple bits
> as a group. With atomic ops, two concurrent writers can still interleave
> and leave the flags in an invalid state.

You are right it is a compound operation. So, there is an existing issue
with two concurrent writers which can leave the flags in an invalid state.

But, I was wondering if there is a slightly different issue now due to
the non-atomic part. Some updates could be lost depending on the timing
of the operation.

For example,

CPU1 does:				CPU2 does:
set_global_enabled_mode("always")	defrag_store("always")

___test_and_set_bit():
// Trying to set bit 1

old = *p
// reads flags, sees defrag bit=0

					set_bit(DEFRAG_DIRECT_FLAG)
					// atomic: sets bit 3
					

*p = old | TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_FLAG;
// writes back old value with bit 1 set
// DEFRAG_DIRECT_FLAG is lost (reverted to 0)

IIUC, this issue didn't exist before. I think it might be safer to use
the atomic test_and_set_bit() to be compatible with the older code.
Though, I'll leave it up to you as I don't have expertise here.

Overall, as you mentioned below, protecting transparent_hugepage_flags
with a spinlock seems like a better, long-term solution to me as well.

> 
> That said, Although I don't think this patch is making it worse, I think
> the is a racy issue here that we can make better. 
> 
> My suggestion is to move the rest of the helpers (defrag_store()) to use
> sysfs_match_string(), and then create a thp_flags_lock spinlock to
> protect operations against transparent_hugepage_flags. Any concern about
> this approach?
> 




  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-16 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-11 10:17 [PATCH v6 0/4] mm: thp: reduce unnecessary start_stop_khugepaged() calls Breno Leitao
2026-03-11 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] mm: khugepaged: export set_recommended_min_free_kbytes() Breno Leitao
2026-03-11 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] mm: huge_memory: refactor anon_enabled_store() with change_anon_orders() Breno Leitao
2026-03-11 11:44   ` Lance Yang
2026-03-23  9:00   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-11 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] mm: huge_memory: refactor enabled_store() with change_enabled() Breno Leitao
2026-03-11 12:20   ` Lance Yang
2026-03-13 22:31   ` Sohil Mehta
2026-03-16 10:12     ` Breno Leitao
2026-03-16 23:26       ` Sohil Mehta [this message]
2026-03-17  9:37         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-17 11:23           ` Breno Leitao
2026-03-17 11:25             ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-17 11:48               ` Breno Leitao
2026-03-11 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] mm: ratelimit min_free_kbytes adjustment messages Breno Leitao

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