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From: Aneesh Kumar K V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>, Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Tim C Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Brice Goglin <brice.goglin@gmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hesham Almatary <hesham.almatary@huawei.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	Jagdish Gediya <jvgediya@linux.ibm.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 7/7] mm/demotion: Demote pages according to allocation fallback order
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2022 09:37:26 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a7d3829e-8bc5-d7a8-5e9e-a7943bb50740@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9f6e60cc8be3cbde4871458c612c5c31d2a9e056.camel@intel.com>

On 6/6/22 6:13 AM, Ying Huang wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-06-03 at 20:39 +0530, Aneesh Kumar K V wrote:
>> On 6/2/22 1:05 PM, Ying Huang wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2022-05-27 at 17:55 +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
>>>> From: Jagdish Gediya <jvgediya@linux.ibm.com>
>>>>
>>>> currently, a higher tier node can only be demoted to selected
>>>> nodes on the next lower tier as defined by the demotion path,
>>>> not any other node from any lower tier.  This strict, hard-coded
>>>> demotion order does not work in all use cases (e.g. some use cases
>>>> may want to allow cross-socket demotion to another node in the same
>>>> demotion tier as a fallback when the preferred demotion node is out
>>>> of space). This demotion order is also inconsistent with the page
>>>> allocation fallback order when all the nodes in a higher tier are
>>>> out of space: The page allocation can fall back to any node from any
>>>> lower tier, whereas the demotion order doesn't allow that currently.
>>>>
>>>> This patch adds support to get all the allowed demotion targets mask
>>>> for node, also demote_page_list() function is modified to utilize this
>>>> allowed node mask by filling it in migration_target_control structure
>>>> before passing it to migrate_pages().
>>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>>     * Take pages on @demote_list and attempt to demote them to
>>>>     * another node.  Pages which are not demoted are left on
>>>> @@ -1481,6 +1464,19 @@ static unsigned int demote_page_list(struct list_head *demote_pages,
>>>>    {
>>>>    	int target_nid = next_demotion_node(pgdat->node_id);
>>>>    	unsigned int nr_succeeded;
>>>> +	nodemask_t allowed_mask;
>>>> +
>>>> +	struct migration_target_control mtc = {
>>>> +		/*
>>>> +		 * Allocate from 'node', or fail quickly and quietly.
>>>> +		 * When this happens, 'page' will likely just be discarded
>>>> +		 * instead of migrated.
>>>> +		 */
>>>> +		.gfp_mask = (GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE & ~__GFP_RECLAIM) | __GFP_NOWARN |
>>>> +			__GFP_NOMEMALLOC | GFP_NOWAIT,
>>>> +		.nid = target_nid,
>>>> +		.nmask = &allowed_mask
>>>> +	};
>>>
>>> IMHO, we should try to allocate from preferred node firstly (which will
>>> kick kswapd of the preferred node if necessary).  If failed, we will
>>> fallback to all allowed node.
>>>
>>> As we discussed as follows,
>>>
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/69f2d063a15f8c4afb4688af7b7890f32af55391.camel@intel.com/
>>>
>>> That is, something like below,
>>>
>>> static struct page *alloc_demote_page(struct page *page, unsigned long node)
>>> {
>>> 	struct page *page;
>>> 	nodemask_t allowed_mask;
>>> 	struct migration_target_control mtc = {
>>> 		/*
>>> 		 * Allocate from 'node', or fail quickly and quietly.
>>> 		 * When this happens, 'page' will likely just be discarded
>>> 		 * instead of migrated.
>>> 		 */
>>> 		.gfp_mask = (GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE & ~__GFP_RECLAIM) |
>>> 			    __GFP_THISNODE  | __GFP_NOWARN |
>>> 			    __GFP_NOMEMALLOC | GFP_NOWAIT,
>>> 		.nid = node
>>> 	};
>>>
>>> 	page = alloc_migration_target(page, (unsigned long)&mtc);
>>> 	if (page)
>>> 		return page;
>>>
>>> 	mtc.gfp_mask &= ~__GFP_THISNODE;
>>> 	mtc.nmask = &allowed_mask;
>>>
>>> 	return alloc_migration_target(page, (unsigned long)&mtc);
>>> }
>>
>> I skipped doing this in v5 because I was not sure this is really what we
>> want.
> 
> I think so.  And this is the original behavior.  We should keep the
> original behavior as much as possible, then make changes if necessary.
> 

That is the reason I split the new page allocation as a separate patch. 
Previous discussion on this topic didn't conclude on whether we really 
need to do the above or not
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAAPL-u9endrWf_aOnPENDPdvT-2-YhCAeJ7ONGckGnXErTLOfQ@mail.gmail.com/

Based on the above I looked at avoiding GFP_THISNODE allocation. If you 
have experiment results that suggest otherwise can you share? I could 
summarize that in the commit message for better description of why 
GFP_THISNODE enforcing is needed.

>> I guess we can do this as part of the change that is going to
>> introduce the usage of memory policy for the allocation?
> 
> Like the memory allocation policy, the default policy should be local
> preferred.  We shouldn't force users to use explicit memory policy for
> that.
> 
> And the added code isn't complex.
> 

-aneesh


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-06  4:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-26 21:22 RFC: Memory Tiering Kernel Interfaces (v3) Wei Xu
2022-05-27  2:58 ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 14:05   ` Hesham Almatary
2022-05-27 16:25     ` Wei Xu
2022-05-27 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/7] mm/demotion: Memory tiers and demotion Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/7] mm/demotion: Add support for explicit memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 13:59     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-02  6:07     ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  2:49       ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  3:56         ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06  5:33           ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  6:01             ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06  6:27               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-06  7:53                 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  8:01                   ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06  8:52                     ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  9:02                       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08  1:24                         ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08  7:16     ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08  8:24       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08  8:27         ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/7] mm/demotion: Expose per node memory tier to sysfs Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 14:15     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-03  8:40       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 14:59         ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-06 16:01           ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 16:16             ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-06 16:39               ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 17:46                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-07 14:32                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-08  7:18     ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08  8:25       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08  8:29         ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/7] mm/demotion: Build demotion targets based on explicit memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 14:31     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-30  3:35     ` [mm/demotion] 8ebccd60c2: BUG:sleeping_function_called_from_invalid_context_at_mm/compaction.c kernel test robot
2022-05-27 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/7] mm/demotion/dax/kmem: Set node's memory tier to MEMORY_TIER_PMEM Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-01  6:29     ` Bharata B Rao
2022-06-01 13:49       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-02  6:36         ` Bharata B Rao
2022-06-03  9:04           ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 10:11             ` Bharata B Rao
2022-06-06 10:16               ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 11:54                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-06 12:09                   ` Bharata B Rao
2022-06-06 13:00                     ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-05-27 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/7] mm/demotion: Add support to associate rank with memory tier Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 14:45     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-27 15:45       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-05-30 12:36         ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-02  6:41     ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/7] mm/demotion: Add support for removing node from demotion memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-02  6:43     ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/7] mm/demotion: Demote pages according to allocation fallback order Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 15:03     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-02  7:35     ` Ying Huang
2022-06-03 15:09       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06  0:43         ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  4:07           ` Aneesh Kumar K V [this message]
2022-06-06  5:26             ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  6:21               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-06  7:42                 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  8:02                   ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06  8:06                     ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06 17:07               ` Yang Shi
2022-05-27 13:40 ` RFC: Memory Tiering Kernel Interfaces (v3) Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-05-27 16:30   ` Wei Xu
2022-05-29  4:31     ` Ying Huang
2022-05-30 12:50       ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-31  1:57         ` Ying Huang
2022-06-07 19:25         ` Tim Chen
2022-06-08  4:41           ` Aneesh Kumar K V

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