From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>,
Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>,
Tyler Sanderson <tysand@google.com>,
"Wang, Wei W" <wei.w.wang@intel.com>,
"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Balloon pressuring page cache
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 17:56:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a94fe61e-e015-49f7-b6c1-3c5aff727996@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200204114336-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
[...]
>>
>> Issue 2: When called via the shrinker, (but also to fix Issue 1), it could be
>> that we do have VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_MUST_TELL_HOST. I assume this means
>> (-ENOCLUE) that we have to wait until the hypervisor notifies us via the STOP? Or
>> for which event do we have to wait? Because there is no way to *tell host* here
>> that we want to reuse a page. The hypervisor will *tell us* when we can reuse pages.
>> For the shrinker it is simple: Don't use the shrinker with
>> VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_MUST_TELL_HOST :) . But to fix Issue 1, we *would* have to wait
>> until we get a STOP signal. That is not really possible because it might
>> take an infinite amount of time.
>>
>> Michael, any clue on which event we have to wait with
>> VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_MUST_TELL_HOST? IMHO, I don't think
>> VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_MUST_TELL_HOST applies to VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT and
>> we'd better document that. It introduces complexity with no clear benefit.
>
> I meant that we must wait for host to see the hint. Signalled via using
> the buffer. But maybe that's too far in the meaning from
> VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_MUST_TELL_HOST and we need a separate new flag for
Yes, that's what I think.
> that. Then current code won't be broken (yay!) but we need to
> document another flag that's pretty similar.
I mean, do we need a flag at all as long as there is no user?
Introducing a flag and documenting it if nobody uses it does not sound
like a work I will enjoy :)
We can simply document "VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_MUST_TELL_HOST does not apply
to FREE_PAGE_HINTING" and "with FREE_PAGE_HINTING, the guest can reuse
pages any time, without waiting for a response/ack from the hypervisor".
Thoughts?
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
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2020-01-30 15:02 ` Balloon pressuring page cache David Hildenbrand
2020-01-30 15:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-30 15:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-01-30 15:31 ` Wang, Wei W
2020-01-30 19:59 ` Tyler Sanderson
2020-02-03 13:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-03 16:18 ` Alexander Duyck
2020-02-03 16:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-03 17:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-03 20:32 ` Tyler Sanderson
2020-02-03 21:22 ` Alexander Duyck
2020-02-03 23:16 ` Tyler Sanderson
2020-02-04 0:10 ` Alexander Duyck
2020-02-04 5:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-04 8:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-04 18:52 ` Tyler Sanderson
2020-02-04 18:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-04 19:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-04 23:58 ` Tyler Sanderson
2020-02-05 0:15 ` Tyler Sanderson
2020-02-05 6:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-05 19:01 ` Tyler Sanderson
2020-02-05 19:22 ` Alexander Duyck
2020-02-05 21:44 ` Tyler Sanderson
2020-02-06 11:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-03 22:50 ` Nadav Amit
2020-02-04 8:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-04 8:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-04 8:48 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-04 14:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-04 16:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-04 16:56 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2020-02-04 20:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-05 8:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-05 6:52 ` Wang, Wei W
2020-02-05 7:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-05 8:50 ` Wang, Wei W
2020-02-05 6:49 ` Wang, Wei W
2020-02-05 8:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-05 8:54 ` Wang, Wei W
2020-02-05 8:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-05 9:00 ` Wang, Wei W
2020-02-05 9:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-05 9:19 ` Wang, Wei W
2020-02-05 9:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-05 9:35 ` Wang, Wei W
2020-02-05 9:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-05 9:49 ` Wang, Wei W
2020-02-05 9:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-05 10:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-05 10:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-05 9:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-05 18:43 ` Tyler Sanderson
2020-02-06 9:30 ` Wang, Wei W
2020-02-05 7:35 ` Nadav Amit
2020-02-05 8:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-05 10:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-05 10:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-01-30 22:46 ` Tyler Sanderson
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