From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
Cc: pratyush@kernel.org, jasonmiu@google.com, graf@amazon.com,
changyuanl@google.com, dmatlack@google.com, rientjes@google.com,
corbet@lwn.net, rdunlap@infradead.org,
ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com, kanie@linux.alibaba.com,
ojeda@kernel.org, aliceryhl@google.com, masahiroy@kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, tj@kernel.org, yoann.congal@smile.fr,
mmaurer@google.com, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
chenridong@huawei.com, axboe@kernel.dk, mark.rutland@arm.com,
jannh@google.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
dan.j.williams@intel.com, david@redhat.com,
joel.granados@kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
anna.schumaker@oracle.com, song@kernel.org,
zhangguopeng@kylinos.cn, linux@weissschuh.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
rafael@kernel.org, dakr@kernel.org,
bartosz.golaszewski@linaro.org, cw00.choi@samsung.com,
myungjoo.ham@samsung.com, yesanishhere@gmail.com,
Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com, quic_zijuhu@quicinc.com,
aleksander.lobakin@intel.com, ira.weiny@intel.com,
andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, leon@kernel.org,
lukas@wunner.de, bhelgaas@google.com, wagi@kernel.org,
djeffery@redhat.com, stuart.w.hayes@gmail.com, ptyadav@amazon.de,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 00/16] Live Update Orchestrator
Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 09:32:41 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aDQLCS6DJHo0QbsC@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250515182322.117840-1-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
(cc'ing linux-api)
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 06:23:04PM +0000, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> This v2 series introduces the LUO, a kernel subsystem designed to
> facilitate live kernel updates with minimal downtime,
> particularly in cloud delplyoments aiming to update without fully
> disrupting running virtual machines.
>
> This series builds upon KHO framework [1] by adding programmatic
> control over KHO's lifecycle and leveraging KHO for persisting LUO's
> own metadata across the kexec boundary. The git branch for this series
> can be found at:
> https://github.com/googleprodkernel/linux-liveupdate/tree/luo/rfc-v2
>
> Changelog from v1:
> - Control Interface: Shifted from sysfs-based control
> (/sys/kernel/liveupdate/{prepare,finish}) to an ioctl interface
> (/dev/liveupdate). Sysfs is now primarily for monitoring the state.
> - Event/State Renaming: LIVEUPDATE_REBOOT event/phase is now
> LIVEUPDATE_FREEZE.
> - FD Preservation: A new component for preserving file descriptors.
> Subsystem Registration: A formal mechanism for kernel subsystems
> to participate.
> - Device Layer: removed device list handling from this series, it is
> going to be added separately.
> - Selftests: Kernel-side selftest hooks and userspace selftests are
> now included.
> KHO Enhancements:
> - KHO debugfs became optional, and kernel APIs for finalize/abort
> were added (driven by LUO's needs).
> - KHO unpreserve functions were also added.
>
> What is Live Update?
> Live Update is a specialized reboot process where selected kernel
> resources (memory, file descriptors, and eventually devices) are kept
> operational or their state preserved across a kernel transition (e.g.,
> via kexec). For certain resources, DMA and interrupt activity might
> continue with minimal interruption during the kernel reboot.
>
> LUO v2 Overview:
> LUO v2 provides a framework for coordinating live updates. It features:
> State Machine: Manages the live update process through states:
> NORMAL, PREPARED, FROZEN, UPDATED.
>
> KHO Integration:
>
> LUO programmatically drives KHO's finalization and abort sequences.
> KHO's debugfs interface is now optional configured via
> CONFIG_KEXEC_HANDOVER_DEBUG.
>
> LUO preserves its own metadata via KHO's kho_add_subtree and
> kho_preserve_phys() mechanisms.
>
> Subsystem Participation: A callback API liveupdate_register_subsystem()
> allows kernel subsystems (e.g., KVM, IOMMU, VFIO, PCI) to register
> handlers for LUO events (PREPARE, FREEZE, FINISH, CANCEL) and persist a
> u64 payload via the LUO FDT.
>
> File Descriptor Preservation: Infrastructure
> liveupdate_register_filesystem, luo_register_file, luo_retrieve_file to
> allow specific types of file descriptors (e.g., memfd, vfio) to be
> preserved and restored.
>
> Handlers for specific file types can be registered to manage their
> preservation and restoration, storing a u64 payload in the LUO FDT.
>
> Example WIP for memfd preservation can be found here [2].
>
> User-space Interface:
>
> ioctl (/dev/liveupdate): The primary control interface for
> triggering LUO state transitions (prepare, freeze, finish, cancel)
> and managing the preservation/restoration of file descriptors.
> Access requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
>
> sysfs (/sys/kernel/liveupdate/state): A read-only interface for
> monitoring the current LUO state. This allows userspace services to
> track progress and coordinate actions.
>
> Selftests: Includes kernel-side hooks and userspace selftests to
> verify core LUO functionality, particularly subsystem registration and
> basic state transitions.
>
> LUO State Machine and Events:
>
> NORMAL: Default operational state.
> PREPARED: Initial preparation complete after LIVEUPDATE_PREPARE
> event. Subsystems have saved initial state.
> FROZEN: Final "blackout window" state after LIVEUPDATE_FREEZE
> event, just before kexec. Workloads must be suspended.
> UPDATED: Next kernel has booted via live update. Awaiting restoration
> and LIVEUPDATE_FINISH.
>
> Events:
> LIVEUPDATE_PREPARE: Prepare for reboot, serialize state.
> LIVEUPDATE_FREEZE: Final opportunity to save state before kexec.
> LIVEUPDATE_FINISH: Post-reboot cleanup in the next kernel.
> LIVEUPDATE_CANCEL: Abort prepare or freeze, revert changes.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250509074635.3187114-1-changyuanl@google.com
> https://github.com/googleprodkernel/linux-liveupdate/tree/luo/kho-v8
> [2] https://github.com/googleprodkernel/linux-liveupdate/tree/luo/memfd-v0.1
>
> RFC v1: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250320024011.2995837-1-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com
>
> Changyuan Lyu (1):
> kho: add kho_unpreserve_folio/phys
>
> Pasha Tatashin (15):
> kho: make debugfs interface optional
> kho: allow to drive kho from within kernel
> luo: luo_core: Live Update Orchestrator
> luo: luo_core: integrate with KHO
> luo: luo_subsystems: add subsystem registration
> luo: luo_subsystems: implement subsystem callbacks
> luo: luo_files: add infrastructure for FDs
> luo: luo_files: implement file systems callbacks
> luo: luo_ioctl: add ioctl interface
> luo: luo_sysfs: add sysfs state monitoring
> reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec
> luo: add selftests for subsystems un/registration
> selftests/liveupdate: add subsystem/state tests
> docs: add luo documentation
> MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry
>
> .../ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-liveupdate | 51 ++
> Documentation/admin-guide/index.rst | 1 +
> Documentation/admin-guide/liveupdate.rst | 62 ++
> .../userspace-api/ioctl/ioctl-number.rst | 1 +
> MAINTAINERS | 14 +-
> drivers/misc/Kconfig | 1 +
> drivers/misc/Makefile | 1 +
> drivers/misc/liveupdate/Kconfig | 60 ++
> drivers/misc/liveupdate/Makefile | 7 +
> drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_core.c | 547 +++++++++++++++
> drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_files.c | 664 ++++++++++++++++++
> drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_internal.h | 59 ++
> drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_ioctl.c | 203 ++++++
> drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_selftests.c | 283 ++++++++
> drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_selftests.h | 23 +
> drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_subsystems.c | 413 +++++++++++
> drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_sysfs.c | 92 +++
> include/linux/kexec_handover.h | 27 +
> include/linux/liveupdate.h | 214 ++++++
> include/uapi/linux/liveupdate.h | 324 +++++++++
> kernel/Kconfig.kexec | 10 +
> kernel/Makefile | 1 +
> kernel/kexec_handover.c | 343 +++------
> kernel/kexec_handover_debug.c | 237 +++++++
> kernel/kexec_handover_internal.h | 74 ++
> kernel/reboot.c | 4 +
> tools/testing/selftests/Makefile | 1 +
> tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/.gitignore | 1 +
> tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/Makefile | 7 +
> tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/config | 6 +
> .../testing/selftests/liveupdate/liveupdate.c | 440 ++++++++++++
> 31 files changed, 3933 insertions(+), 238 deletions(-)
> create mode 100644 Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-liveupdate
> create mode 100644 Documentation/admin-guide/liveupdate.rst
> create mode 100644 drivers/misc/liveupdate/Kconfig
> create mode 100644 drivers/misc/liveupdate/Makefile
> create mode 100644 drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_core.c
> create mode 100644 drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_files.c
> create mode 100644 drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_internal.h
> create mode 100644 drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_ioctl.c
> create mode 100644 drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_selftests.c
> create mode 100644 drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_selftests.h
> create mode 100644 drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_subsystems.c
> create mode 100644 drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_sysfs.c
> create mode 100644 include/linux/liveupdate.h
> create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/liveupdate.h
> create mode 100644 kernel/kexec_handover_debug.c
> create mode 100644 kernel/kexec_handover_internal.h
> create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/.gitignore
> create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/Makefile
> create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/config
> create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/liveupdate.c
>
> --
> 2.49.0.1101.gccaa498523-goog
>
--
Sincerely yours,
Mike.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-26 6:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-15 18:23 [RFC v2 00/16] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 01/16] kho: make debugfs interface optional Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 16:03 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-06 16:12 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 02/16] kho: allow to drive kho from within kernel Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 03/16] kho: add kho_unpreserve_folio/phys Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 15:00 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-06 16:22 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 04/16] luo: luo_core: Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26 6:31 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-30 5:00 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 15:17 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-07 17:11 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 05/16] luo: luo_core: integrate with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26 7:18 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-07 17:50 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-09 2:14 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 16:00 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-07 23:30 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 14:58 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-17 15:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 19:32 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 13:11 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-18 14:48 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 16:40 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-18 17:00 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 17:43 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-19 12:00 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-19 14:22 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-20 15:28 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-20 16:03 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-24 16:12 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-24 16:55 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-24 18:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-23 7:32 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-23 11:29 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 13:46 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 06/16] luo: luo_subsystems: add subsystem registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26 7:31 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-07 23:42 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-28 19:12 ` David Matlack
2025-06-07 23:58 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 16:30 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 0:04 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 07/16] luo: luo_subsystems: implement subsystem callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 08/16] luo: luo_files: add infrastructure for FDs Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 23:15 ` James Houghton
2025-05-23 18:09 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26 7:55 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-05 11:56 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 13:13 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 15:56 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 13:37 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 15:27 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-15 18:02 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 09/16] luo: luo_files: implement file systems callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 16:03 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 13:49 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 15:18 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-13 20:26 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-16 10:43 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-16 14:57 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 13:16 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 10/16] luo: luo_ioctl: add ioctl interface Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26 8:42 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-08 15:08 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-28 20:29 ` David Matlack
2025-06-08 16:32 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 16:15 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 16:35 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-24 9:50 ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-24 14:27 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 9:36 ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-25 16:12 ` David Matlack
2025-06-26 15:42 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-26 16:24 ` David Matlack
2025-07-14 14:56 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-07-17 16:17 ` David Matlack
2025-07-23 14:51 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-07-06 14:33 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-07 12:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-25 16:58 ` pasha.tatashin
2025-07-06 14:24 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-09 21:27 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-07-10 7:26 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-14 14:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-16 9:43 ` Greg KH
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 11/16] luo: luo_sysfs: add sysfs state monitoring Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 16:20 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 16:36 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 15:13 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 12/16] reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 13/16] luo: add selftests for subsystems un/registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26 8:52 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-08 16:47 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 14/16] selftests/liveupdate: add subsystem/state tests Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 15/16] docs: add luo documentation Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26 9:00 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 16/16] MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-20 7:25 ` [RFC v2 00/16] Live Update Orchestrator Mike Rapoport
2025-05-23 18:07 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26 6:32 ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=aDQLCS6DJHo0QbsC@kernel.org \
--to=rppt@kernel.org \
--cc=Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=aleksander.lobakin@intel.com \
--cc=aliceryhl@google.com \
--cc=andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com \
--cc=anna.schumaker@oracle.com \
--cc=axboe@kernel.dk \
--cc=bartosz.golaszewski@linaro.org \
--cc=bhelgaas@google.com \
--cc=bp@alien8.de \
--cc=changyuanl@google.com \
--cc=chenridong@huawei.com \
--cc=corbet@lwn.net \
--cc=cw00.choi@samsung.com \
--cc=dakr@kernel.org \
--cc=dan.j.williams@intel.com \
--cc=dave.hansen@linux.intel.com \
--cc=david@redhat.com \
--cc=djeffery@redhat.com \
--cc=dmatlack@google.com \
--cc=graf@amazon.com \
--cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
--cc=hannes@cmpxchg.org \
--cc=hpa@zytor.com \
--cc=ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com \
--cc=ira.weiny@intel.com \
--cc=jannh@google.com \
--cc=jasonmiu@google.com \
--cc=joel.granados@kernel.org \
--cc=kanie@linux.alibaba.com \
--cc=leon@kernel.org \
--cc=linux-api@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-doc@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=linux@weissschuh.net \
--cc=lukas@wunner.de \
--cc=mark.rutland@arm.com \
--cc=masahiroy@kernel.org \
--cc=mingo@redhat.com \
--cc=mmaurer@google.com \
--cc=myungjoo.ham@samsung.com \
--cc=ojeda@kernel.org \
--cc=pasha.tatashin@soleen.com \
--cc=pratyush@kernel.org \
--cc=ptyadav@amazon.de \
--cc=quic_zijuhu@quicinc.com \
--cc=rafael@kernel.org \
--cc=rdunlap@infradead.org \
--cc=rientjes@google.com \
--cc=roman.gushchin@linux.dev \
--cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=song@kernel.org \
--cc=stuart.w.hayes@gmail.com \
--cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
--cc=tj@kernel.org \
--cc=vincent.guittot@linaro.org \
--cc=wagi@kernel.org \
--cc=x86@kernel.org \
--cc=yesanishhere@gmail.com \
--cc=yoann.congal@smile.fr \
--cc=zhangguopeng@kylinos.cn \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).