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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v2 10/16] luo: luo_ioctl: add ioctl interface
Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 11:42:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aDQpfiykuRrk_xnr@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250515182322.117840-11-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>

On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 06:23:14PM +0000, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> Introduce the user-space interface for the Live Update Orchestrator
> via ioctl commands, enabling external control over the live update
> process and management of preserved resources.
> 
> Create a misc character device at /dev/liveupdate. Access
> to this device requires the CAP_SYS_ADMIN capability.
> 
> A new UAPI header, <uapi/linux/liveupdate.h>, defines the necessary
> structures. The magic number is registered in
> Documentation/userspace-api/ioctl/ioctl-number.rst.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
 
...

> -/**
> - * enum liveupdate_state - Defines the possible states of the live update
> - * orchestrator.
> - * @LIVEUPDATE_STATE_NORMAL:         Default state, no live update in progress.
> - * @LIVEUPDATE_STATE_PREPARED:       Live update is prepared for reboot; the
> - *                                   LIVEUPDATE_PREPARE callbacks have completed
> - *                                   successfully.
> - *                                   Devices might operate in a limited state
> - *                                   for example the participating devices might
> - *                                   not be allowed to unbind, and also the
> - *                                   setting up of new DMA mappings might be
> - *                                   disabled in this state.
> - * @LIVEUPDATE_STATE_FROZEN:         The final reboot event
> - *                                   (%LIVEUPDATE_FREEZE) has been sent, and the
> - *                                   system is performing its final state saving
> - *                                   within the "blackout window". User
> - *                                   workloads must be suspended. The actual
> - *                                   reboot (kexec) into the next kernel is
> - *                                   imminent.
> - * @LIVEUPDATE_STATE_UPDATED:        The system has rebooted into the next
> - *                                   kernel via live update the system is now
> - *                                   running the next kernel, awaiting the
> - *                                   finish event.
> - *
> - * These states track the progress and outcome of a live update operation.
> - */
> -enum liveupdate_state  {
> -	LIVEUPDATE_STATE_NORMAL = 0,
> -	LIVEUPDATE_STATE_PREPARED = 1,
> -	LIVEUPDATE_STATE_FROZEN = 2,
> -	LIVEUPDATE_STATE_UPDATED = 3,
> -};
> -

Nit: this seems an unnecessary churn, these definitions can go to
include/uapi from the start.

> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/liveupdate.h b/include/uapi/linux/liveupdate.h
> +/**
> + * struct liveupdate_fd - Holds parameters for preserving and restoring file
> + * descriptors across live update.
> + * @fd:    Input for %LIVEUPDATE_IOCTL_FD_PRESERVE: The user-space file
> + *         descriptor to be preserved.
> + *         Output for %LIVEUPDATE_IOCTL_FD_RESTORE: The new file descriptor
> + *         representing the fully restored kernel resource.
> + * @flags: Unused, reserved for future expansion, must be set to 0.
> + * @token: Output for %LIVEUPDATE_IOCTL_FD_PRESERVE: An opaque, unique token
> + *         generated by the kernel representing the successfully preserved
> + *         resource state.
> + *         Input for %LIVEUPDATE_IOCTL_FD_RESTORE: The token previously
> + *         returned by the preserve ioctl for the resource to be restored.
> + *
> + * This structure is used as the argument for the %LIVEUPDATE_IOCTL_FD_PRESERVE
> + * and %LIVEUPDATE_IOCTL_FD_RESTORE ioctls. These ioctls allow specific types
> + * of file descriptors (for example memfd, kvm, iommufd, and VFIO) to have their
> + * underlying kernel state preserved across a live update cycle.
> + *
> + * To preserve an FD, user space passes this struct to
> + * %LIVEUPDATE_IOCTL_FD_PRESERVE with the @fd field set. On success, the
> + * kernel populates the @token field.
> + *
> + * After the live update transition, user space passes the struct populated with
> + * the *same* @token to %LIVEUPDATE_IOCTL_FD_RESTORE. The kernel uses the @token
> + * to find the preserved state and, on success, populates the @fd field with a
> + * new file descriptor referring to the fully restored resource.
> + */
> +struct liveupdate_fd {
> +	int		fd;
> +	__u32		flags;
> +	__u64		token;
> +};

Consider using __aligned_u64 here for size-based versioning.

> +
> +/* The ioctl type, documented in ioctl-number.rst */
> +#define LIVEUPDATE_IOCTL_TYPE		0xBA

...

> +/**
> + * LIVEUPDATE_IOCTL_EVENT_PREPARE - Initiate preparation phase and trigger state
> + * saving.

This (and others below) is more a command than an event IMHO. Maybe just
LIVEUPDATE_IOCTL_PREPARE?

> + * Argument: None.
> + *
> + * Initiates the live update preparation phase. This action corresponds to
> + * the internal %LIVEUPDATE_PREPARE kernel event and can also be triggered

This action is a reason for LIVEUPDATE_PREPARE event, isn't it?
The same applies to other IOCTL_EVENTS

> + * by writing '1' to ``/sys/kernel/liveupdate/prepare``. This typically
> + * triggers the main state saving process for items marked via the PRESERVE
> + * ioctls. This occurs *before* the main "blackout window", while user
> + * applications (e.g., VMs) may still be running. Kernel subsystems
> + * receiving the %LIVEUPDATE_PREPARE event should serialize necessary state.
> + * This command does not transfer data.

I'm not sure I follow what this sentence means.

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-26  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-15 18:23 [RFC v2 00/16] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 01/16] kho: make debugfs interface optional Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 16:03   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-06 16:12     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 02/16] kho: allow to drive kho from within kernel Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 03/16] kho: add kho_unpreserve_folio/phys Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 15:00   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-06 16:22     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 04/16] luo: luo_core: Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  6:31   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-30  5:00     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 15:17   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-07 17:11     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 05/16] luo: luo_core: integrate with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  7:18   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-07 17:50     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-09  2:14       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 16:00   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-07 23:30     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 14:58       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-17 15:23         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 19:32           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 13:11             ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-18 14:48               ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 16:40                 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-18 17:00                   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 17:43                     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-19 12:00                       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-19 14:22                         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-20 15:28                           ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-20 16:03                             ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-24 16:12                               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-24 16:55                                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-24 18:31                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-23  7:32                       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-23 11:29                         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 13:46                           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 06/16] luo: luo_subsystems: add subsystem registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  7:31   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-07 23:42     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-28 19:12   ` David Matlack
2025-06-07 23:58     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 16:30   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08  0:04     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 07/16] luo: luo_subsystems: implement subsystem callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 08/16] luo: luo_files: add infrastructure for FDs Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 23:15   ` James Houghton
2025-05-23 18:09     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  7:55   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-05 11:56     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 13:13     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 15:56   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 13:37     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 15:27       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-15 18:02         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 09/16] luo: luo_files: implement file systems callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 16:03   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 13:49     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 15:18       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-13 20:26         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-16 10:43           ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-16 14:57             ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 13:16               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 10/16] luo: luo_ioctl: add ioctl interface Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  8:42   ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2025-06-08 15:08     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-28 20:29   ` David Matlack
2025-06-08 16:32     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 16:15   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 16:35     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-24  9:50   ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-24 14:27     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25  9:36       ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-25 16:12         ` David Matlack
2025-06-26 15:42           ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-26 16:24             ` David Matlack
2025-07-14 14:56               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-07-17 16:17                 ` David Matlack
2025-07-23 14:51                   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-07-06 14:33             ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-07 12:56               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-25 16:58         ` pasha.tatashin
2025-07-06 14:24     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-09 21:27       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-07-10  7:26         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-14 14:34           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-16  9:43             ` Greg KH
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 11/16] luo: luo_sysfs: add sysfs state monitoring Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 16:20   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 16:36     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 15:13       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 12/16] reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 13/16] luo: add selftests for subsystems un/registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  8:52   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-08 16:47     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 14/16] selftests/liveupdate: add subsystem/state tests Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 15/16] docs: add luo documentation Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  9:00   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 16/16] MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-20  7:25 ` [RFC v2 00/16] Live Update Orchestrator Mike Rapoport
2025-05-23 18:07   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  6:32 ` Mike Rapoport

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