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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>,
	miklos@szeredi.hu, brauner@kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm, kernel-team@meta.com,
	willy@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/8] iomap: add iomap_writeback_dirty_folio()
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 20:59:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aEetuahlyfHGTG7x@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250609171444.GL6156@frogsfrogsfrogs>

On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 10:14:44AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > Where "folio laundering" means calling ->launder_folio, right?
> 
> What does fuse use folio laundering for, anyway?  It looks to me like
> the primary users are invalidate_inode_pages*.  Either the caller cares
> about flushing dirty data and has called filemap_write_and_wait_range;
> or it doesn't and wants to tear down the pagecache ahead of some other
> operation that's going to change the file contents and doesn't care.
> 
> I suppose it could be useful as a last-chance operation on a dirty folio
> that was dirtied after a filemap_write_and_wait_range but before
> invalidate_inode_pages*?  Though for xfs we just return EBUSY and let
> the caller try again (or not).  Is there a subtlety to fuse here that I
> don't know about?

My memory might be betraying me, but I think willy once launched an
attempt to see if we can kill launder_folio.  Adding him, and the
mm and nfs lists to check if I have a point :)



       reply	other threads:[~2025-06-10  4:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250606233803.1421259-1-joannelkoong@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <20250606233803.1421259-6-joannelkoong@gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <aEZoau3AuwoeqQgu@infradead.org>
     [not found]     ` <20250609171444.GL6156@frogsfrogsfrogs>
2025-06-10  3:59       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-06-11  4:34         ` [PATCH v1 5/8] iomap: add iomap_writeback_dirty_folio() Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-18  4:47           ` does fuse need ->launder_folios, was: " Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-18 12:17           ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-20 18:15             ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-25  5:26               ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-25  6:26                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-25 16:44                   ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-01  5:41                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-02 21:36                       ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 21:47                         ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-01  6:23                     ` Miklos Szeredi

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