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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
Cc: david@redhat.com, ziy@nvidia.com, dhowells@redhat.com,
	hughd@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	aneesh.kumar@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [QUESTION] xas_reload() in iter_xarray_populate_pages()
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 14:47:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFFx64M_iFgeIh5j@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <918d552a-085a-4529-8f20-a060b1f0c9f1@arm.com>

On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 10:40:51AM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
> 
> On 26/05/25 12:05 pm, Dev Jain wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > After doing an xas_load() and xas_retry(), we take neither a reference nor a lock
> > on the folio, and we do an xas_reload(). Is this just to reduce the time window
> > for a race?
> > 
> > If the above is true, then, there is a negligible window between xas_load() and
> > xas_reload(), because only xas_retry() exists between them, so why to even reload()?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Dev
> 
> I do not completely remember our discussion in THP Cabal; I recall David Howells maybe
> saying that the folios are already locked, so it is safe to do xas_load and then do
> a folio_get()? Even if we remove the redundant xas_reload(), I still don't understand
> why we won't need xas_reload() at least after folio_get()?

Because you need xas_reload() in order to solve this race:

A: load folio
B: remove folio
B: free folio
C: alloc folio
A: tryget folio
A: reload folio

If A already has a refcount on folio, folio cannot be freed, and so A
cannot get a refcount to C's folio.

The other mutexes are irrelevant here; this is purely a folio refcount
problem/solution.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-17 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-26  6:35 [QUESTION] xas_reload() in iter_xarray_populate_pages() Dev Jain
2025-05-26  7:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-26 19:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-06-17  5:10 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-17  7:47   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17  9:18     ` Dev Jain
2025-06-17  9:26       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17  9:38         ` Dev Jain
2025-06-17 13:47   ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2025-06-18  3:14     ` Dev Jain

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