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From: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: "Balbir Singh" <balbirs@nvidia.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Karol Herbst" <kherbst@redhat.com>,
	"Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>, "Barry Song" <baohua@kernel.org>,
	"Baolin Wang" <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Ryan Roberts" <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>, "Zi Yan" <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	"Kefeng Wang" <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	"Jane Chu" <jane.chu@oracle.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Donet Tom" <donettom@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Ralph Campbell" <rcampbell@nvidia.com>,
	"Mika Penttilä" <mpenttil@redhat.com>,
	"Francois Dugast" <francois.dugast@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [v2 01/11] mm/zone_device: support large zone device private folios
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2025 14:15:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJJ0hTS52PVAq1sp@lstrano-desk.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <da283a44-e668-4e88-985c-3e2805b556bc@redhat.com>

On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 02:58:42PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 05.08.25 13:01, Balbir Singh wrote:
> > On 8/5/25 20:57, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > On 05.08.25 06:22, Balbir Singh wrote:
> > > > On 7/30/25 19:50, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I think I asked that already but maybe missed the reply: Should these folios ever be added to the deferred split queue and is there any value in splitting them under memory pressure in the shrinker?
> > > > > 
> > > > > My gut feeling is "No", because the buddy cannot make use of these folios, but maybe there is an interesting case where we want that behavior?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I realized I did not answer this
> > > > 
> > > > deferred_split() is the default action when partial unmaps take place. Anything that does
> > > > folio_rmap_remove_ptes can cause the folio to be deferred split if it gets partially
> > > > unmapped.
> > > 
> > > Right, but it's easy to exclude zone-device folios here. So the real question is: do you want to deal with deferred splits or not?
> > > 
> > > If not, then just disable it right from the start.
> > > 
> > 
> > I agree, I was trying to avoid special casing device private folios unless needed to the extent possible
> 
> By introducing a completely separate split logic :P
> 
> Jokes aside, we have plenty of zone_device special-casing already, no harm
> in adding one more folio_is_zone_device() there.
> 
> Deferred splitting is all weird already that you can call yourself fortunate
> if you don't have to mess with that for zone-device folios.
> 
> Again, unless there is a benefit in having it.

+1 on no deferred split for device folios.

Matt

> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> 
> David / dhildenb
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-05 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-30  9:21 [v2 00/11] THP support for zone device page migration Balbir Singh
2025-07-30  9:21 ` [v2 01/11] mm/zone_device: support large zone device private folios Balbir Singh
2025-07-30  9:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-04 23:43     ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-05  4:22     ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-05 10:57       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 11:01         ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-05 12:58           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 21:15             ` Matthew Brost [this message]
2025-08-06 12:19               ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-30  9:21 ` [v2 02/11] mm/thp: zone_device awareness in THP handling code Balbir Singh
2025-07-30 11:16   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-30 11:27     ` Zi Yan
2025-07-30 11:30       ` Zi Yan
2025-07-30 11:42         ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-30 12:08           ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-30 12:25             ` Zi Yan
2025-07-30 12:49               ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-30 15:10                 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-30 15:40                   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-30 15:58                     ` Zi Yan
2025-07-30 16:29                       ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-31  7:15                         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-31  8:39                           ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-31 11:26                           ` Zi Yan
2025-07-31 12:32                             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-31 13:34                               ` Zi Yan
2025-07-31 19:09                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-01  0:49                             ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-01  1:09                               ` Zi Yan
2025-08-01  7:01                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-01  1:16                               ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-01  4:44                                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-01  5:57                                   ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-01  6:01                                   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-01  7:04                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-01  8:01                                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-01  8:46                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-01 11:10                                         ` Zi Yan
2025-08-01 12:20                                           ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-01 12:28                                             ` Zi Yan
2025-08-02  1:17                                               ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-02 10:37                                               ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-02 12:13                                                 ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-04 22:46                                                   ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-04 23:26                                                     ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-05  4:10                                                       ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-05  4:24                                                         ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-05  5:19                                                           ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-05 10:27                                                           ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-05 10:35                                                             ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-05 10:36                                                               ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-05 10:46                                                                 ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-30 20:05   ` kernel test robot
2025-07-30  9:21 ` [v2 03/11] mm/migrate_device: THP migration of zone device pages Balbir Singh
2025-07-31 16:19   ` kernel test robot
2025-07-30  9:21 ` [v2 04/11] mm/memory/fault: add support for zone device THP fault handling Balbir Singh
2025-07-30  9:21 ` [v2 05/11] lib/test_hmm: test cases and support for zone device private THP Balbir Singh
2025-07-31 11:17   ` kernel test robot
2025-07-30  9:21 ` [v2 06/11] mm/memremap: add folio_split support Balbir Singh
2025-07-30  9:21 ` [v2 07/11] mm/thp: add split during migration support Balbir Singh
2025-07-31 10:04   ` kernel test robot
2025-07-30  9:21 ` [v2 08/11] lib/test_hmm: add test case for split pages Balbir Singh
2025-07-30  9:21 ` [v2 09/11] selftests/mm/hmm-tests: new tests for zone device THP migration Balbir Singh
2025-07-30  9:21 ` [v2 10/11] gpu/drm/nouveau: add THP migration support Balbir Singh
2025-07-30  9:21 ` [v2 11/11] selftests/mm/hmm-tests: new throughput tests including THP Balbir Singh
2025-07-30 11:30 ` [v2 00/11] THP support for zone device page migration David Hildenbrand
2025-07-30 23:18   ` Alistair Popple
2025-07-31  8:41   ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-31  8:56     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 21:34 ` Matthew Brost

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