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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: zhongjinji <zhongjinji@honor.com>
Cc: rientjes@google.com, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	liam.howlett@oracle.com, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
	liulu.liu@honor.com, feng.han@honor.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/2] mm/oom_kill: Do not delay oom reaper when the victim is frozen
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 14:08:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aK71W1ITmC_4I_RY@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250825133855.30229-2-zhongjinji@honor.com>

On Mon 25-08-25 21:38:54, zhongjinji wrote:
> The OOM reaper can quickly reap a process's memory when the system
> encounters OOM, helping the system recover. If the victim process is
> frozen and cannot be unfrozen in time, the reaper delayed by two seconds
> will cause the system to fail to recover quickly from the OOM state.
> 
> When an OOM occurs, if the victim is not unfrozen, delaying the OOM reaper
> will keep the system in a bad state for two seconds. Before scheduling the
> oom_reaper task, check whether the victim is in a frozen state. If the
> victim is frozen, do not delay the OOM reaper.

I do not think this changelog captures the essence of the change really
well and it suggests that this might be a performance optimization. As I
have explained on several occasions the oom reaper is not meant to be a
performance optimization but rather a forward progress guarantee. I
would suggest this wording instead.

"
The oom reaper is a mechanism to guarantee a forward process during OOM
situation when the oom victim cannot terminate on its own (e.g. being
blocked in uninterruptible state or frozen by cgroup freezer). In order
to give the victim some time to terminate properly the oom reaper is
delayed in its invocation. This is particularly beneficial when the oom
victim is holding robust futex resources as the anonymous memory tear
down can break those.

On the other hand deliberately frozen tasks by the freezer cgroup will
not wake up until they are thawed in the userspace and delay is
effectively pointless. Therefore opt out from the delay for cgroup
frozen oom victims.
"

Thanks!
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-27 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-25 13:38 [PATCH v5 0/2] Do not delay oom reaper when the victim is frozen zhongjinji
2025-08-25 13:38 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] mm/oom_kill: " zhongjinji
2025-08-25 19:41   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-26 13:01     ` zhongjinji
2025-08-26 12:43   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 12:08   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2025-08-27 12:14     ` zhongjinji
2025-08-25 13:38 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] mm/oom_kill: Have the OOM reaper and exit_mmap() traverse the maple tree in opposite order zhongjinji
2025-08-26 12:53   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 13:37     ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-26 13:50       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 15:21         ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-26 22:26           ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-27  4:12             ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-27  4:25               ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-27  9:55               ` zhongjinji
2025-08-27 15:57                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-28  0:38                   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-29  7:11               ` Michal Hocko
2025-08-29  7:14     ` Michal Hocko

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