From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Where to put page->memdesc initially
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2025 00:24:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aLd8l8v_DL75NU43@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250902211514.GQ186519@nvidia.com>
On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 06:15:14PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 10:06:05PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>
> > I'm concerned by things like compaction that are executing
> > asynchronously and might see a page mid-transition. Or something like
> > GUP or lockless pagecache lookup that might get a stale page
> > pointer.
>
> At least GUP fast obtains a page refcount before touching the rest of
> struct page, so I think it can't see those kinds of races since the
> page shouldn't be transitioning with a non-zero refcount?
OK, so ...
- For folios, there's already no such thing as a page refcount (you may
already know this and are just being slightly sloppy while
speaking). If you attempt to access the refcount on a tail page,
you're silently redirected to the folio refcount.
- That's not going to change with memdescs; for pages which are part of
a memdesc, attempting to acess the page's refcount will redirect to
the folio's refcount.
What GUP-fast will do once we get to Page2025 is:
- READ_ONCE(page->memdesc)
- Check that the bottom bits match a folio. If not, fall back to
GUP-slow (or retry; I forget the details).
- tryget the refcount, if fail fall back/retry
- if (READ_ONCE(page->memdesc) != memdesc) { folio_put(); retry/fallback }
- yay, we succeeded.
So that's all a little more complicated with two places to check as
an intermediate state, but I think it's doable. It's just fiddly.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-02 23:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-02 19:03 Where to put page->memdesc initially Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-02 20:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-02 20:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 21:06 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-02 21:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-02 23:24 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2025-09-02 23:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 4:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-03 9:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-03 12:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 12:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 9:33 ` David Hildenbrand
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