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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	paulmck@kernel.org, Jan Engelhardt <ej@inai.de>,
	Sudarsan Mahendran <sudarsanm@google.com>,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, cl@gentwo.org, harry.yoo@oracle.com,
	howlett@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, maple-tree@lists.infradead.org,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, rientjes@google.com,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev
Subject: Re: Benchmarking [PATCH v5 00/14] SLUB percpu sheaves
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 13:50:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMvx9GKgIWtrkZ_R@milan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpE48n=QM0nY8yE3drqZU0wgC76=70EyftL1WZewEcykyA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 04:59:41PM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 9:14 AM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 10:19 PM Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 10:09:18AM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 8:22 AM Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/15/25 14:13, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 09:51:25AM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Saturday 2025-09-13 02:09, Sudarsan Mahendran wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >Summary of the results:
> > > > >
> > > > > In any case, thanks a lot for the results!
> > > > >
> > > > > >> >- Significant change (meaning >10% difference
> > > > > >> >  between base and experiment) on will-it-scale
> > > > > >> >  tests in AMD.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >Summary of AMD will-it-scale test changes:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >Number of runs : 15
> > > > > >> >Direction      : + is good
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> If STDDEV grows more than mean, there is more jitter,
> > > > > >> which is not "good".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is true.  On the other hand, the mean grew way more in absolute
> > > > > > terms than did STDDEV.  So might this be a reasonable tradeoff?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also I'd point out that MIN of TEST is better than MAX of BASE, which means
> > > > > there's always an improvement for this config. So jitter here means it's
> > > > > changing between better and more better :) and not between worse and (more)
> > > > > better.
> > > > >
> > > > > The annoying part of course is that for other configs it's consistently the
> > > > > opposite.
> > > >
> > > > Hi Vlastimil,
> > > > I ran my mmap stress test that runs 20000 cycles of mmapping 50 VMAs,
> > > > faulting them in then unmapping and timing only mmap and munmap calls.
> > > > This is not a realistic scenario but works well for A/B comparison.
> > > >
> > > > The numbers are below with sheaves showing a clear improvement:
> > > >
> > > > Baseline
> > > >             avg             stdev
> > > > mmap        2.621073        0.2525161631
> > > > munmap      2.292965        0.008831973052
> > > > total       4.914038        0.2572620923
> > > >
> > > > Sheaves
> > > >             avg            stdev           avg_diff        stdev_diff
> > > > mmap        1.561220667    0.07748897037   -40.44%        -69.31%
> > > > munmap      2.042071       0.03603083448   -10.94%        307.96%
> > > > total       3.603291667    0.113209047     -26.67%        -55.99%
> > > >
> > > Could you run your test with dropping below patch?
> >
> > Sure, will try later today and report.
> 
> Sheaves with [04/23] patch reverted:
> 
>             avg             avg_diff
> mmap     2.143948        -18.20%
> munmap     2.343707        2.21%
> total     4.487655        -8.68%
> 
With offloading over sheaves the mmap/munmap is faster, i assume it is
because of same objects are reused from the sheaves after reclaim. Whereas we,
kvfree_rcu() just free them.
 
Thank you for your results.

--
Uladzislau Rezki


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-18 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-23 13:34 [PATCH v5 00/14] SLUB percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] slab: add opt-in caching layer of " Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-18 10:09   ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-26  8:03     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-19  4:19   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26  8:51     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-13 14:35   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-09-13 20:32     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-14  2:22   ` Hillf Danton
2025-09-14 20:24     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-15  0:11       ` Hillf Danton
2025-09-15  7:21         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 16:39   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-07-24 14:30     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-24 17:36       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] slab: sheaf prefilling for guaranteed allocations Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] slab: determine barn status racily outside of lock Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] tools: Add testing support for changes to rcu and slab for sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-22 16:28   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26  9:32     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-27  0:19       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] tools: Add sheaves support to testing infrastructure Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-22 16:56   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26  9:59     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] maple_tree: use percpu sheaves for maple_node_cache Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] mm, vma: use percpu sheaves for vm_area_struct cache Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] mm, slub: skip percpu sheaves for remote object freeing Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-25  5:22   ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-26 10:11     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] mm, slab: allow NUMA restricted allocations to use percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-22 19:58   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-25  6:52   ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-26 10:49     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] testing/radix-tree/maple: Increase readers and reduce delay for faster machines Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] maple_tree: Sheaf conversion Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-22 20:18   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26 14:22     ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-27  2:07       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-28 14:27         ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] maple_tree: Add single node allocation support to maple state Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-22 20:25   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26 15:10     ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-27  2:03       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-23 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] maple_tree: Convert forking to use the sheaf interface Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-22 20:29   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-15 22:53 ` [PATCH v5 00/14] SLUB percpu sheaves Sudarsan Mahendran
2025-08-16  8:05   ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-16 17:35     ` Sudarsan Mahendran
2025-08-16 18:31       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-16 18:33         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-17  4:28           ` Sudarsan Mahendran
2025-09-13  0:09 ` Benchmarking " Sudarsan Mahendran
2025-09-15  7:51   ` Jan Engelhardt
2025-09-15 12:13     ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-09-15 15:22       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-16 17:09         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-17  5:19           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-09-17 16:14             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-17 23:59               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-18 11:50                 ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2025-09-18 15:29                   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-19 15:07                     ` Uladzislau Rezki

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