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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>, Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/29] context_tracking,x86: Defer some IPIs until a user->kernel transition
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 17:25:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aQDuY3rgOK-L8D04@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251010153839.151763-1-vschneid@redhat.com>

+Cc Phil Auld

Le Fri, Oct 10, 2025 at 05:38:10PM +0200, Valentin Schneider a écrit :
> Patches
> =======
> 
> o Patches 1-2 are standalone objtool cleanups.

Would be nice to get these merged.

> o Patches 3-4 add an RCU testing feature.

I'm taking this one.

> 
> o Patches 5-6 add infrastructure for annotating static keys and static calls
>   that may be used in noinstr code (courtesy of Josh).
> o Patches 7-20 use said annotations on relevant keys / calls.
> o Patch 21 enforces proper usage of said annotations (courtesy of Josh).
> 
> o Patch 22 deals with detecting NOINSTR text in modules

Not sure how to route those. If we wait for each individual subsystem,
this may take a while.

> o Patches 23-24 deal with kernel text sync IPIs

I would be fine taking those (the concerns I had are just details)
but they depend on all the annotations. Alternatively I can take the whole
thing but then we'll need some acks.
 
> o Patches 25-29 deal with kernel range TLB flush IPIs

I'll leave these more time for now ;o)
And if they ever go somewhere, it should be through x86 tree.

Also, here is another candidate usecase for this deferral thing.
I remember Phil Auld complaining that stop_machine() on CPU offlining was
a big problem for nohz_full. Especially while we are working on
a cpuset interface to toggle nohz_full but this will require the CPUs
to be offline.

So my point is that when a CPU goes offline, stop_machine() puts all
CPUs into a loop with IRQs disabled. CPUs in userspace could possibly
escape that since they don't touch the kernel anyway. But as soon as
they enter the kernel, they should either acquire the final state of
stop_machine if completed or join the global loop if in the middle.

Thanks.

-- 
Frederic Weisbecker
SUSE Labs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-28 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-10 15:38 [PATCH v6 00/29] context_tracking,x86: Defer some IPIs until a user->kernel transition Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 01/29] objtool: Make validate_call() recognize indirect calls to pv_ops[] Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 02/29] objtool: Flesh out warning related to pv_ops[] calls Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 03/29] rcu: Add a small-width RCU watching counter debug option Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 04/29] rcutorture: Make TREE04 use CONFIG_RCU_DYNTICKS_TORTURE Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 05/29] jump_label: Add annotations for validating noinstr usage Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 06/29] static_call: Add read-only-after-init static calls Valentin Schneider
2025-10-30 10:25   ` Petr Tesarik
2025-10-31 11:52     ` Valentin Schneider
2025-11-03  8:37       ` Petr Tesarik
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 07/29] x86/paravirt: Mark pv_sched_clock static call as __ro_after_init Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 08/29] x86/idle: Mark x86_idle " Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 09/29] x86/paravirt: Mark pv_steal_clock " Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 10/29] riscv/paravirt: " Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 11/29] loongarch/paravirt: " Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 12/29] arm64/paravirt: " Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 13/29] arm/paravirt: " Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 14/29] perf/x86/amd: Mark perf_lopwr_cb " Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 15/29] sched/clock: Mark sched_clock_running key " Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 16/29] KVM: VMX: Mark __kvm_is_using_evmcs static " Valentin Schneider
2025-10-14  0:02   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-14 11:20     ` Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 17/29] x86/speculation/mds: Mark cpu_buf_idle_clear key as allowed in .noinstr Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 18/29] sched/clock, x86: Mark __sched_clock_stable " Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 19/29] KVM: VMX: Mark vmx_l1d_should flush and vmx_l1d_flush_cond keys " Valentin Schneider
2025-10-14  0:01   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-14 11:02     ` Valentin Schneider
2025-10-14 19:06       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 20/29] stackleack: Mark stack_erasing_bypass key " Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 21/29] objtool: Add noinstr validation for static branches/calls Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 22/29] module: Add MOD_NOINSTR_TEXT mem_type Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 23/29] context-tracking: Introduce work deferral infrastructure Valentin Schneider
2025-10-28 14:00   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-10-29 10:09     ` Valentin Schneider
2025-10-29 14:52       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-03  8:32   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-04 13:45     ` Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 24/29] context_tracking,x86: Defer kernel text patching IPIs Valentin Schneider
2025-10-28 14:49   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v6 25/29] x86/mm: Make INVPCID type macros available to assembly Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [RFC PATCH v6 26/29] x86/mm/pti: Introduce a kernel/user CR3 software signal Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [RFC PATCH v6 27/29] x86/mm/pti: Implement a TLB flush immediately after a switch to kernel CR3 Valentin Schneider
2025-10-28 15:59   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-10-29 10:16     ` Valentin Schneider
2025-10-29 10:31       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-10-29 14:13         ` Valentin Schneider
2025-10-29 14:49           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-10-31  9:55             ` Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [RFC PATCH v6 28/29] x86/mm, mm/vmalloc: Defer kernel TLB flush IPIs under CONFIG_COALESCE_TLBI=y Valentin Schneider
2025-10-10 15:38 ` [RFC PATCH v6 29/29] x86/entry: Add an option to coalesce TLB flushes Valentin Schneider
2025-10-14 12:58 ` [PATCH v6 00/29] context_tracking,x86: Defer some IPIs until a user->kernel transition Juri Lelli
2025-10-14 15:26   ` Valentin Schneider
2025-10-15 13:16     ` Valentin Schneider
2025-10-15 14:28       ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-28 16:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2025-10-29 10:32   ` Valentin Schneider
2025-10-29 17:15     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-05 16:24       ` Valentin Schneider
2025-11-05 17:46         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-06 10:02           ` Valentin Schneider

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