From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] mt-exec: fix deadlock with ptrace_attach()
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 15:47:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRH66lGd-OT4O68C@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <GV2PPF74270EBEE83C2CA09B945BC954FA3E4CEA@GV2PPF74270EBEE.EURP195.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Hi Bernd,
On 11/10, Bernd Edlinger wrote:
>
> When the debugger wants to attach the de_thread the debug-user access rights are
> checked against the current user and additionally against the new user credentials.
> This I did by quickly switching the user credenitals to the next user and back again,
> under the cred_guard_mutex, which should make that safe.
Let me repeat, I can't really comment this part, I don't know if it is
actually safe. But the very fact your patch changes ->mm and ->cred of
the execing task in ptrace_attach() makes me worry... At least I think
you should update or remove this comment in begin_new_exec:
/*
* cred_guard_mutex must be held at least to this point to prevent
* ptrace_attach() from altering our determination of the task's
* credentials; any time after this it may be unlocked.
*/
security_bprm_committed_creds(bprm);
> So at this time I have only one request for you.
> Could you please try out how the test case in my patch behaves with your fix?
The new TEST(attach2) added by your patch fails as expected, see 3/3.
128 static long thread2_tid;
129 static void *thread2(void *arg)
130 {
131 thread2_tid = syscall(__NR_gettid);
132 sleep(2);
133 execlp("false", "false", NULL);
134 return NULL;
135 }
136
137 TEST(attach2)
138 {
139 int s, k, pid = fork();
140
141 if (!pid) {
142 pthread_t pt;
143
144 pthread_create(&pt, NULL, thread2, NULL);
145 pthread_join(pt, NULL);
146 return;
147 }
148
149 sleep(1);
150 k = ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, pid, 0L, 0L);
151 ASSERT_EQ(k, 0);
152 k = waitpid(-1, &s, 0);
153 ASSERT_EQ(k, pid);
154 ASSERT_EQ(WIFSTOPPED(s), 1);
155 ASSERT_EQ(WSTOPSIG(s), SIGSTOP);
156 k = ptrace(PTRACE_SETOPTIONS, pid, 0L, PTRACE_O_TRACEEXIT);
157 ASSERT_EQ(k, 0);
158 thread2_tid = ptrace(PTRACE_PEEKDATA, pid, &thread2_tid, 0L);
159 ASSERT_NE(thread2_tid, -1);
160 ASSERT_NE(thread2_tid, 0);
161 ASSERT_NE(thread2_tid, pid);
162 k = waitpid(-1, &s, WNOHANG);
163 ASSERT_EQ(k, 0);
164 sleep(2);
165 /* deadlock may happen here */
166 k = ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, thread2_tid, 0L, 0L);
PTRACE_ATTACH fails.
thread2() kills the old leader, takes it pid, execlp() succeeds.
Oleg.
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[not found] ` <AM8PR10MB470875B22B4C08BEAEC3F77FE4169@AM8PR10MB4708.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2023-10-30 5:20 ` [PATCH v12] exec: Fix dead-lock in de_thread with ptrace_attach Bernd Edlinger
2023-10-30 9:00 ` kernel test robot
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2024-01-15 19:22 ` [PATCH v14] " Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-15 19:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-17 9:51 ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-16 15:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-17 15:07 ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-17 16:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-22 13:24 ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-22 13:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-22 21:30 ` Kees Cook
2024-01-23 18:30 ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-24 0:09 ` Kees Cook
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2025-08-18 6:04 ` [PATCH v15] " Jain, Ayush
2025-08-18 20:53 ` [PATCH v16] " Bernd Edlinger
2025-08-19 4:36 ` Kees Cook
2025-08-19 18:53 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-08-21 17:34 ` [PATCH v17] " Bernd Edlinger
2025-10-27 6:26 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-10-27 12:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-02 16:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-05 14:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-11 9:21 ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-11 11:07 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-11 13:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-11 13:45 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-12 9:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-17 6:31 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-17 15:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-17 20:08 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-09 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] mt-exec: fix deadlock with ptrace_attach() Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] exec: make setup_new_exec() return int Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:15 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] exec: don't wait for zombie threads with cred_guard_mutex held Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10 10:58 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2025-11-10 15:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10 21:49 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2025-11-11 14:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:16 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] ptrace: ensure PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT won't stop if the tracee is killed by exec Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10 5:28 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] mt-exec: fix deadlock with ptrace_attach() Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-10 14:47 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
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