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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Alex Mastro <amastro@fb.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>, Zhi Wang <zhiw@nvidia.com>,
	David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
	Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>, Ankit Agrawal <ankita@nvidia.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: Add file_operations.get_mapping_order()
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2025 12:21:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aTWpjOhLOMOB2e74@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251204151003.171039-3-peterx@redhat.com>

On Thu, Dec 04, 2025 at 10:10:01AM -0500, Peter Xu wrote:
> Add one new file operation, get_mapping_order().  It can be used by file
> backends to report mapping order hints.
> 
> By default, Linux assumed we will map in PAGE_SIZE chunks.  With this hint,
> the driver can report the possibility of mapping chunks that are larger
> than PAGE_SIZE.  Then, the VA allocator will try to use that as alignment
> when allocating the VA ranges.
> 
> This is useful because when chunks to be mapped are larger than PAGE_SIZE,
> VA alignment matters and it needs to be aligned with the size of the chunk
> to be mapped.
> 
> Said that, no matter what is the alignment used for the VA allocation, the
> driver can still decide which size to map the chunks.  It is also not an
> issue if it keeps mapping in PAGE_SIZE.
> 
> get_mapping_order() is defined to take three parameters.  Besides the 1st
> parameter which will be the file object pointer, the 2nd + 3rd parameters
> being the pgoff + size of the mmap() request.  Its retval is defined as the
> order, which must be non-negative to enable the alignment.  When zero is
> returned, it should behave like when the hint is not provided, IOW,
> alignment will still be PAGE_SIZE.

This should explain how it works when the incoming pgoff is not
aligned..

I think for dpdk we want to support mapping around the MSI hole so
something like

 pgoff 0 -> 2M
 skip 4k
 2m + 4k -> 64M

Should setup the last VMA to align to 2M + 4k so the first PMD is
fragmented to 4k pages but the remaning part is 2M sized or better.

We just noticed a bug very similer to this in qemu around it's manual
alignment scheme where it would de-align things around the MSI window
and spoil the PMDs.

I guess ideally the file could return the order assuming an aligned-to-start
pgoff and the core code could use that order to compute an adjustment
for
the actual pgoff so we maintain:
  va % order = pgoff % order

Jason


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-07 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-04 15:09 [PATCH v2 0/4] mm/vfio: huge pfnmaps with !MAP_FIXED mappings Peter Xu
2025-12-04 15:10 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm/thp: Allow thp_get_unmapped_area_vmflags() to take alignment Peter Xu
2025-12-04 15:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: Add file_operations.get_mapping_order() Peter Xu
2025-12-04 15:19   ` Peter Xu
2025-12-08  9:21     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-12-10 20:24       ` Peter Xu
2025-12-07 16:21   ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-12-10 20:23     ` Peter Xu
2025-12-04 15:10 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] vfio: Introduce vfio_device_ops.get_mapping_order hook Peter Xu
2025-12-04 15:10 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] vfio-pci: Best-effort huge pfnmaps with !MAP_FIXED mappings Peter Xu
2025-12-05  4:33   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-05  7:45   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-07 16:26   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-12-10 20:43     ` Peter Xu
2025-12-08  3:11   ` Alex Mastro
2025-12-04 18:16 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] mm/vfio: " Cédric Le Goater
2025-12-07  9:13 ` Alex Mastro

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