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From: Leonardo Bras <leobras.c@gmail.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: Leonardo Bras <leobras.c@gmail.com>,
	"Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Boqun Feun <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] Introducing qpw_lock() and per-cpu queue & flush work
Date: Sun,  8 Mar 2026 15:00:26 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa25OmY7HlbU5kDV@WindFlash> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aacGBc9x+zn1tluU@tpad>

On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 01:02:13PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 01:03:36PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> > On 3/2/26 16:49, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > +#define local_qpw_lock(lock)								\
> > > +	do {										\
> > > +		if (static_branch_maybe(CONFIG_QPW_DEFAULT, &qpw_sl)) {			\
> > > +			migrate_disable();						\
> > 
> > Have you considered using migrate_disable() on PREEMPT_RT and
> > preempt_disable() on !PREEMPT_RT since it's cheaper? It's what the pcp
> > locking in mm/page_alloc.c does, for that reason. It should reduce the
> > overhead with qpw=1 on !PREEMPT_RT.
> 
> migrate_disable:
> Patched kernel, CONFIG_QPW=y, qpw=1:    192 cycles
> 
> preempt_disable:
> [   65.497223] kmalloc_bench: Avg cycles per kmalloc: 184 cycles
> 
> I tried it before, but it was crashing for some reason which i didnt
> look into (perhaps PREEMPT_RT was enabled).
> 
> Will change this for the next iteration, thanks.
> 

Hi all,

That made me remember that rt spinlock already uses migrate_disable and 
non-rt spinlocks already have preempt_disable()

Maybe it's actually worth adding a local_spin_lock() in spinlock{,_rt}.c 
whichy would get the per-cpu variable inside the preempt/migrate_disable 
area, and making use of it in qpw code. That way we avoid nesting 
migtrate_disable or preempt_disable, and further reducing impact.

The alternative is to not have migrate/preempt disable here and actually 
trust the ones inside the locking primitives. Is there a chance of 
contention, but I don't remember being able to detect it.

Thanks!
Leo


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-08 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-02 15:49 [PATCH v2 0/5] Introduce QPW for per-cpu operations (v2) Marcelo Tosatti
2026-03-02 15:49 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] slab: distinguish lock and trylock for sheaf_flush_main() Marcelo Tosatti
2026-03-02 15:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] Introducing qpw_lock() and per-cpu queue & flush work Marcelo Tosatti
2026-03-03 12:03   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-03 16:02     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2026-03-08 18:00       ` Leonardo Bras [this message]
2026-03-09 10:14         ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-11  0:16           ` Leonardo Bras
2026-03-11  7:58   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-15 17:37     ` Leonardo Bras
2026-03-16 10:55       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-23  0:51         ` Leonardo Bras
2026-03-13 21:55   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-03-15 18:10     ` Leonardo Bras
2026-03-17 13:33       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-03-23  1:38         ` Leonardo Bras
2026-03-24 11:54           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-03-24 22:06             ` Leonardo Bras
2026-03-23 14:36         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2026-03-02 15:49 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm/swap: move bh draining into a separate workqueue Marcelo Tosatti
2026-03-02 15:49 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] swap: apply new queue_percpu_work_on() interface Marcelo Tosatti
2026-03-02 15:49 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] slub: " Marcelo Tosatti
2026-03-03 11:15 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Introduce QPW for per-cpu operations (v2) Frederic Weisbecker
2026-03-08 18:02   ` Leonardo Bras
2026-03-03 12:07 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-05 16:55 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-03-06  1:47   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2026-03-10 21:34     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-03-10 17:12   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2026-03-10 22:14     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-03-11  1:18     ` Hillf Danton
2026-03-11  7:54     ` Vlastimil Babka

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